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Jill, cave diving is not like weightlifting, it is not a gender sport. When you go claiming "world's records" , you are telling other than the truth. You pretend to applaud the WKPP while at the same time claiming its work as your own, as did your whole project which merely followed the map I made ( what little of it you were given). If we were to disuccss gender, then it would be a fact that most of the women in the WKPP have travelled significantly farther than where you and Kakook went in B Tunnel in all of our systems, which as you may have heard are mostly very long caves. Just doing routine setups in WKPP dives involve distances that would be considered "records". In addition, these women are not out to every magazine bragging about it or exaggerating their dives, as you clearly are. You did NOT go 10,000 feet anywhere, and neither did anyone on your team. Our women are also atheletes who set a good example all around. Dawn Kergnais is a Masters swimmer and winning triathelete in the toughest age group there is, for example, not an overweight couch potato who tries to nmake believe anyhone can do this if they spend enough money- anyone can NOT , and we have miles of cave to explore where rebreathers, chambers, etc. are impossible, and we get it done quite easily using our methods which are the undisputed best in the business, a big bone of contention with your boy Stone. It is a travesty that you appear in a UK "womens" dining magazine with Bat Man , a form of scum that only you would entertain, who told the same Dawn Kernagis she could dive on his project if she slept with him. Pretty work, hypocrite. When we set a record it is routiune and done safely . Anyhone emulating our example needs to start with the fitness and training and operate as a team, not put out stories on their web site of leaving buddy at a mile into a 300 foot deep cave like your husband and Kakook did, while bragging about deep air diving on their web bio, like kakook did. I do not deal with idiots like that, and neither does my team. Get that. I do not work with people who do not know what they are doing, I do not work with people who do not have the committment that my divers have ( like owning their own gear and knowing how to use it) and I do not work with fakes, liars, and cons. I refused to have anything to do with your organization and was proven right - you all showed up unprepared and conducted a world class fire drill. Everyone knows I am totally uncompromising and intollerant of the attitudes and methods you and your "team" represent, and everyone knows I do not like any of you - never have never will, and for good sound reason of the piss poor exmaple you all set in diving, so Jarrod Jablonski did the explaining to the State as to why we would have no part of your nonsense. I ( we ) were actually blamed for your disaster at Wakulla . They told JJ that had I ( I am always the bad guy since I will not back down from what is right no matter what the stakes) cooperated, nobody ever would have been killed or injured and your project would have been a huge success. JJ 's response was, "Yes, that is very ture, but only because we would not have let any of those people in the water in the first place". Get that and get it good. We could have worked together, Jill, but you would have been making coffee and carrying tanks, preferably with a gag on. In all seriousness , you are one of the worst hypocrites I have ever run across, and that is par for the course with your whole "team". The fact is that the WKPP has been operating steadily for years, in the WKP and Wakulla, and it was never up to ME to cooperate with YOU, the correct protocol would have been for your organzation to show up and help us and develop out with us, not show up in a one shot grand stand play with the football wanting to play quarterback ove the guy who has the best track record in the business and tell me you will make my "little piker weekends look like nothing", that you will "tripple my distance" or make 35 pages of "engineering" drawings of my scooter that my team financed and attempt to copy them , or write letters to the State complaining about me, or go to my sponsors at DEMA and threaten them that noboyd will buy their gear if they sponser me, etc. Bottom line - you are a worthless lying hypocrite like the rest of your team, and the best call I ever made was treating you that way. We continue on, you are all done. P.S. - when you can put any information about anything on any of these diving lists that would not get you Baker Acted , you can discuss what I contribute. The fact is my contribution to diving outweighs yours and the sum total of any of your buddies in the usdct 1000:1. FACT. Jill Heinerth wrote: > > Although I tend to keep very quiet on the internet, I feel compelled to > set straight some serious inaccuracies that have been published about > myself and the Wakulla2 Project. > > To begin, I would like to preface my comments with a wish that this > sport could somehow become more of an open forum with a fresh exchange > of ideas. I sincerely believe that competitiveness within the ranks will > > lead to fatalities. I pursue cave diving for personal fulfillment and > the joy that I get meeting people who openly exchange ideas. I get as > much excitement out of laying line as I do hearing about discoveries and > > accomplishments that others have made. I have stayed out of the internet > > bickering because it only deters good people from asking questions that > are important to them. > > My 21 hour dive at Wakulla Springs seems to be a bone of contention with > > some individuals in the caving community. I thought I would clear the > air by describing what occurred during my dive. > > My partner Brian Kakuk and I were charged with the task of placing radio > > location beacons that could be sensed on the surface by our team-mate > and radio expert Brian Pease. We were asked to set, level and fire > several coils that could confirm the surface GPS location of key > intersections in B Tunnel (see the published Wakulla High Accuracy > Network Manual - www.wakulla2.org). We were on the clock, trying to > coordinate our dive with a team of “trackers” on the surface. Our job > was to leap frog coils through the tunnels at 300 feet and wait a > predesignated time of up to 20 minutes per coil, while the surface team > zeroed in on our signal. After placing several coils along the way and > waiting for long durations, we found ourselves at the end of the B > Tunnel line. We had a timetable to stick to but had approximately 30 > minutes to burn before needing to head back out towards our next > location. Although we had found a note within the cave indicating that > there was nothing left to discover, we probed some breakdown and found > going passage. Brian and I eagerly grabbed a reel and paid out fresh > line beyond the extent of exploration. After dropping 1025 feet of new > line, there was still virgin cave beckoning to us, but we had to retreat > > to make our scheduled beacon position on time for the surface crew. > > The result of our five hour+ bottom time was a long decompression > schedule of an additional sixteen hours. We set up a dry transfer > capsule for the project that allowed divers to get out of the water much > > sooner. The result was an extremely safe, well-monitored, comfortable > decompression schedule. > > As to other recent comments by an individual who I have not even > formerly met... the report is true, I am a proud Canadian who has lived > in the States for approximately four years. Most of my diving career has > > been outside this country. I have never claimed to have gone farther > than the extremely impressive WKPP dive to 18,000 feet in Wakulla. I > have merely been acknowledged as a woman who is doing something out of > the norm in my gender. > > I sincerely applaud and support the efforts of the WKPP and other > exploration teams. They have done some extremely dedicated work that > will benefit the community for a long time to come. (I truly wish that > we could have worked together.) > > What I cannot support is individuals who spew hatred and untruths over > the internet. I only have personal experience with one individual who > frankly scares me with internet threats and handwritten letters that > cheerfully anticipate the untimely deaths of my husband and I. > > So I will retreat back into my quiet world and continue cave diving > which I love so very much. I can only hope that the community sifts > through the crap and continues to learn from each other. Everyone in > this community has something to offer that is positive. If we all keep > ourselves open to new ideas for our particular diving applications, then > > this will be a safer sport. > > Safe diving and best wishes to all who explore the uncharted earth. > > Sincerely, > > Jill Heinerth -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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