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From: <Gilldiver@ao*.co*>
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 10:07:04 EDT
Subject: Re: Just say "No" to the Jersey Up Line adn eveything else out of
     the NE
To: klind@al*.ne*, techdiver@aquanaut.com
In a message dated 8/31/99 7:09:53 PM Eastern Daylight Time, klind@al*.ne* 
writes:

> Regardless of whether divers use a Jersey up line, one thing I don't 
understand is why NE dive boats don't carry chase boats.  Here in Alaska it's 
standard practice to carry a skiff or inflatable and you rarely see a 
commercial fishing boat or pleasure boat that doesn't have a skiff on board 
or inflatable tied on the roof.  The extreme tides and lack of piers in most 
areas pretty much requires that you use a skiff anytime you want to go 
ashore.  
  
I think you answered your question, you need a small boat just to get to your 
dive boat. In the North East tides rarely run greater then 6' (Bay of Fundy 
excepted). So we do not need a skiff to get on, we just walk on from the 
dock. Current on the near shore wrecks are rarely greater then 1-2 knots.  
Off shore, we do get stronger currents and then most if not all of the larger 
boats will carry a chase boat. 

Now back to the near shore, 90-99% of all charter boat dives are on only a 
few wrecks. In the NY RI area the most popular tend to be the USS San Diego, 
RMS Oregon, U-853, and USS Bass. The deepest of all these wrecks is the Bass 
at 160'. We just do not have many charter boat dives on the deeper wrecks, 
you cannot make it pay for more then 2-3 special trips per year.

Now a typical weekend day of diving on the San Diego you will find 2-4 large 
charter boat putting in 12-20 divers each. Even on the U-853 it is not 
uncommon to see 3  6-packs on moorings with 1-2 boat circulating waiting for 
a spot. Would you want live boats with that many divers on a wrecks 300'- 
600' long? If we were to start using live  main boats and chase boats we will 
kill more divers with propellers then we ever lost.

As for further off wrecks like the Doria or Republic, yes you need a chase 
boat because you are most likely the only boat within 10-20 miles, the 
current can be greater, and the DECO longer.

And to close, in all my years of wreck diving on both coasts the only time I 
was ever on a charter boat that was live was in Puget Sound and they stayed 
live because they could not anchor in on the steep walls. All other charter 
boats were anchored in, that's in New England, Canada, NY, NJ, DE, MD, VA, 
NC, SC, FL, CA, and WA. Only on a few occasions have we cut free after all 
divers were on the DECO line under the boat, and that was in NC when the 
current was ripping on the surface but not on the bottom.

So lets see: More divers, on typically shallower wrecks, low current, with 
less deco time required - why wouldn't you tie in?

Now all of this will change with private boats where you will see a lot of 
free drift etc. but it is the exception.

Pete Johnson
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