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Von, I will never in my life do as many cave dives as I have done deep
ocean diving. You do not seem to see that there is no circumstance where
doing it wrong makes any sense. So far all of your silliness is nothing
more than accomodations of other mistakes you are making and compounding
with more silliness.

You can not support it with any logic that stands the light of day, and
I seriously doubt that you do anything in caves that I would consider
consistent with our methods.

REPEAT - I AM AN OCEAN DIVER - cave diving is a sideline for me. No
amount of wishing will make any effort by the wreck "divers" to dicredit
what I am saying hold any water simply because I know what I am talking
about, have the log book and track record to prove it, and can make
perfect sense of it againt any arguement any of you want to make.

Von, I would not get on a boat with anyone doing any of the things I
have seen you recommend. I do not like to be on hand for clusterufucks,
accidents, and especially deaths - seen too many of them , read about
too many ,heard about too many and most of them are coming up looking
like you in the gear department, and started the dive thinking like you.
In fact all of them.


bigvon@be*.ne* wrote:
> 
> George
> I have never "fought about everything you do" in the caves. I dive DIR in the
> caves.
> We were arguing...er...discussing..deep open ocean diving.
> Bill
> 
> kirvine@sa*.ne* wrote:
> 
> > Von, if you could pay attention long enough you would see that every
> > thing we do ( which you fight about consistently) is an effort to avoid
> > these screwups, and we explain why, but you do not want to hear it, you
> > have a better way, like the rest.

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