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From: <kirvine@sa*.ne*>
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 06:08:10 -0400
To: Scaleworks@ao*.co*
CC: ststev@un*.co*, Art.Paltz@r2*.co*, techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: Jersey Up Line
Wrong answer - use of the word "safely" mixed in with dangerous ocean
conditions 8 hours off shore is bullshit. The main boat needs to be free
from the wreck line, or releasable with a pelican, like the tuna
fishermen use when they get a big one on chumming.

The Jersey up reel is one more accomodation to farm animal stupidity -
another peice of garbage used to compensate for doing it wrong to start
with. Another clusterfuck waiting to happen, like bondage wings.

Scaleworks@ao*.co* wrote:
> 
> In a message dated 99-08-26 22:42:16 EDT, kirvine@sa*.ne* writes:
> 
> <<
>  Why did we get into the water under thes conditions in the fist place,
>  or why did we stay down so long that they developed? Is the trash off of
>  these wrecks this important - you guys need to learn when to not dive.>>
> 
> George,
> 
> We dive safely in these conditions quite often, and do not consider them
> extreme or unsafe. The issue raised, was doing a free floating deco offshore
> when the boat is on a fixed mooring, and depending on a chase boat to save
> your ass. A free floating deco in these or any conditions in this situation
> is definitely not the procedure of choice by divers or Captains. And I am
> sure you are well aware, that conditions on the ocean can and do change
> quickly.
> If conditions aren't suitable for diving, the boat stays in, if they
> deteriorate offshore, the trip is called after one dive, at least the boats I
> dive on do.
> 
> << I can see that with you guys there is a "get my money's worth at all
>  costs mentality". This is called sutpidity.
> 
>  Learn to do boat rides and like them, and come back again.
>   >>
> What I have found up here, is that most divers that frequent the boats
> weekly, know when to call a dive and for the right reasons. I do see people
> that travel long distances for their once a year trip, or only get to dive
> infrequently push it, but normally at the point that it has become
> questionable, the Captain, or a majority of the customers have decided to
> blow it off anyways.
> 
> Kevin


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