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From: <kirvine@sa*.ne*>
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 10:41:31 -0400
To: Karl Kramer <Karl.W.Kramer@ph*.un*.de*>
CC: Jody Everett <jodyev@in*.co*>,
     "Techdiver (E-mail)" ,
     RB flaming list
Subject: Re: Rebreather/Diving Age Limit?
Karl, diver error, natural causes, diabetes, heart attack, and now we
can add occupational stress. 

How about we add "bullshit" to that list?

I am in a high stress buisinees. I am almost 50. I dive complex gear in
extreme task loading conditions. So does my whole team.

Here are the differences. 1) I understand the risks. 2) I prepare for
them 3) I stay in shape , and believe that those who are not should not
be certified - makes us all look bad when they die. 4) When I screw up,
have a heart atack, die of natural cuases, or otherwise have a problem
MY BUDDY IS RIGHT THERE TO HELP ME.

Let me ask you this , Karl, in all three accidents with the CIS , where
was the buddy? In all of the Inspiration deaths, where was the buddy? In
all of the Doria deaths, where was the buddy?

Hello, Karl, what were you blubbering about a minute ago? Are we getting
thorugh yet, Karl, or do we need some more research by you guys?

Karl Kramer wrote:
> 
> From:                   "Jody Everett" <jodyev@in*.co*>
> 
> > Maybe all you guys over 40 should just give up diving.  There seems to be a
> > much higher rate of heart problems in the 40-50 age group of divers than in
> > the rest of the general population.
> 
> Hi Jody,
> 
> Rebreather-Divers are a preselected group,
> what makes it quite normal that this
> also means other matches / characteristics in common.
> Those who prefer silence unter water are
> surely often doing that because they are highly stress exposed at work
> and so have a much higher rate of heart problems.
> 
> Then you refer to the Colour of housings: simply look at the sales-count,
> it is more likely in absolute numbers that a money-spinner
> (Car-Examole: like a VW) in involved in an accident / natural-causes death
> than a shelf warmer.
> 
> Rgds,
> 
>     Karl
> 
> 
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