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Tod,

I read this list to learn about diving, not speech and debate bullshit.

If you have something to say about specific diving techniques and equipment and
how
they were or were not possibly involved in these recent fatalities please do so.

Those who have been paying attention could tell you why the gear cited is a
problem,
or you could read some of the archieves.

Otherwise, shut the fuck up already.

best regards,

Al Marvelli

tgunther@co*.co* wrote:

> What are the chances that he was also using a Poseidon Odin or Scubapro G250,
> wearing a DUI drysuit, donning a Uwatec, or side-carrying an AUL light?    
Did
> these contribute to his death also?    They too were no doubt found at the
death
> scene, and they too have an uncanny knack of being present at most technical
> diver fatalities?    What can we deduce from all this?
>
> The answer of course from the WKPP will be quick in coming:   No, because
> differing members of the WKPP wears each of the above items from time to time
> themselves and therefore because they use them (the arrogance and pomposity of
> this logic aside), and they never die, than it must necessarily follow that
> these items are safe, right?   Or some similiar likeness of this convoluted
> logic.   That and the fact that George has deemed them safe among the myriad
of
> competing pros and cons and tradeoffs, therefore no longer making the matter
one
> of unproven subjectivity, but passed down from the Gods themselves.
>
> Everyone, please read the below and than upon your next opportunity purchase a
> copy of "The Rhetoric of Reason : Writing and the Attractions of Argument" by
> James Crosswhite or "How We Know What Isn't So: The Fallibility of Human
Reason"
> by Thomas Gilovich.    Take an evening to read through either of these titles
> and begin seeing through some of these tenuous arguments often posted by the
> WKPP to demonize different manufacturers gear and technologies over and above
> those internally "tested" themselves.     A couple aha's will start going off
in
> your head after you have just a minor education in speculative theory and
> reason.
>
> Regards,
> Tod
>
>  >
> >    I have some info on the recovery of Charlie McGurr.
> >
> >     He was using Bondage wings
> >     He was found feet down on the deck
> >     He had all steel tanks
> >     He also had 28 lbs of lead
> >     He was left by his team after he signaled he was going up
> >     The recovery team could not lift him with the bondage wings he has
> >     wearing.
> >
> >    This info came directly from a recovery diver. I would appreciate if
> > you would not share my name
>
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