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To: J
To: Shepherd <jms@fe*.ed*.ac*.uk*>
Subject: Re: Breathing Reflex
From: "Marek Jan Nowicki" <MAREK@me*.hs*.us*.ed*>
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 1994 17:12:05 PST8PDT
From:          J Shepherd <jms@fe*.ed*.ac*.uk*>
Subject:       Re: Breathing Reflex
To:            techdiver@opal.com
Date:          Tue, 13 Dec 94 21:12:26 GMT

	Yeah, I sort of appreciate that the lungs are being 
compressed;
but too a point only.

	After the rib cage has bringed as tight as it will get, the lung
volume will be pretty small (I gather that about 2l is the usual 'dead
space'? - my physiology lectures were a few years ago, now). Beyond 
that
( a point reached at 50m ) the pressure will stress the ribcage, and
might cause a further (slight) reduction in volume, until the cage
collapses catastophically (ouch) (squish).

	So from 50m down, what's happening? Some divers come up 
with
blood, implying tearing of the lung tissue or leakage of blood into the
lung airspace. What about the rest?

	It used to be believed that the maximum limit for breath hold
diving was set by maximum compression of the ribcage, but this 
obviously
is not the case. The limit may then be, the fluid pressure which the
lung tissues can support, before fluid is forced either interstitially,
(say into the plueral sac) or via the pulmonary blood supply directly
into the lung.

	Where is it, what's the pressure?

	And when some mad fool goes deeper than that, where did 
we go
wrong?

	:-)

	Jason. Hell, it's cheaper than trimix, and it pulls the birds
better.

	(JOKE, OK?) Christ....;-) 
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What about free divers diving to 200-300 ft (60 - 90 m) ???


marek

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