Hi Jason, On Tue, 13 Dec 94 12:18:22 GMT J Shepherd wrote: > > The absolute production of CO2 is metabolism related - since > this is not depth related, the amount of CO2 remains the smae regards of > depth (since you are breathing out, the ppCO2 in you lungs at 40m, 80m > or 0m is the same). This backs up to your brain, where the CO2 > equilibrates into the wet bits of your brain and alters the pH. The is > picked up.... somewhere, and increases drive and the breathing reflex > (i.e. I gotta do something, and the something is breathe - if you can't > breathe you still gotta do something so you panic). > > You don't *need* to in terms of O2 intake, but in terms of > metabolic by product, you do want to... Does this mean that if you run out of air @ depth & if you don't breath (obviously), if you have a 'will of iron' you will feel like shit, but won't blackout due to O2 starvation as quickly at depth as on the surface ??? I once held my breath for 3 mins....relaxed & sitting in an armchair. "Why ?" you may well ask. I'm not sure I have a good answer, apart from just seeing if I could. It felt pretty awful & I would have hated to even do 1 minute underwater. (I'm sure we will now have a flood of people saying they can do it for even longer... :-) ) Anyway on the Discovery Channel a couple of days ago they showed one of the 'free divers' snorkelling down to 80 metres....without a weight to speed him down, nor with extra bouyancy to bring him back up....pretty impressive !!! With extra weight to get down & a bouyant ascent the limit set was 120 metres. This is considerably more than the guys portrayed in the "Deep Blue" film set in the 60's. Anyway, as an aside they stated that the record for breath-holding under water in a swimming pool was 7 minutes (!) I presume that in doing this the 'pain barrier' of CO2 build-up is overcome & that the real limitation is O2 blackout. If so, could the same person hold his breath for 28 minutes @ 30 metres, where the ppO2 is 0.8 bar. This doesn't seem likely ..!! Hence are you correct in your original supposition or are there other factors to be considered ? Regards, Steve M. ps..no real practical use to any of this...just the product of a rambling mind...but then isn't 90% of the techdiver listserver ?? *This* is the time to don my asbestos suit..! :-) ************************************************************************** * * * * Dr. S. G. Millard, * E-Mail : ec96@li*.ac*.uk* * * Senior Lecturer, * * * Department of Civil Engineering * Tel : 051 794 5224 (UK) * * University of Liverpool, * 44 51 794 5224 * * PO Box 147, * (International) * * Liverpool L69 3BX, * * * UK. * Fax : 051 794 5218 (UK) * * * 44 51 794 5218 * * * (International) * * * * **************************************************************************
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