Hallelujah, Brothers and Sisters! JT -- John Taylor, Marketing and Trading Systems, IT Development Credit Suisse Financial Products (Hong Kong) Ltd, 13F, Tower 3, Exchange Square, Central, Hong Kong Office: +852 2101 6927, Fax: +852 2101 7698, Mobile: +852 9031 6395, email: john.taylor@cs*.co*.uk* [private e-mail: live4diving@ho*.co*] > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim Cobb [SMTP:cobber@ci*.co*] > Sent: Sunday, May 16, 1999 6:39 AM > To: Case; Tech Diver > Subject: Re: Abyss Explorer Nitrox > > Uh, Case, are you using the old sherwood wind-up bottom timers to avoid > this problem? > > Jim > > Sender: Case Date: 5/15/99 11:40 AM > > >Guys....we're forgetting THE MOST important reason why I'd rather dive > >tables than a computer ..... electronic devices can and will fail > >underwater! I believe the question was posed as "What is the difference > >between following a deco schedule produced from a set of > >(computer-generated) tables, and following a deco schedule produced by a > >computer on your wrist?" That's easy....if your 500 MHz Pentium III > >running Z Plan fails while calculating your dive information, chances > >are, you're not underwater in a life threatening situation.... When (not > >IF...but WHEN) your CockRing, or NiTEK (I hate that name!), or any deco > >computer fails in the middle of the dive, you're left with either backup > >tables and a timer, or pulling deco out your butt.... > > > >since electronics do fail underwater, why not just skip that whole step > >and rely instead on the computer between your ears and a set of good > >tables....? > > > >-Case > >diveman@cy*.co* > > > >Frank Riffel wrote: > >> > >> "Taylor, John" wrote: > >> > >> > Dear List, > >> > > >> > Please enlighten me: > >> > > >> > What is the difference between following a deco schedule produced > from a > >set > >> > of (computer-generated) tables, and following a deco schedule > produced by > a > >> > computer on your wrist? (Apart from algorithm differences and that > the > >> > computer produces a schedule for the dive you actually did) > >> > >> Basicaly none. But you cannot account for deco related issues that are > not > >> addressed by the implemented algorithm. I mean which schedule would you > >> follow if you got into strong current and had to expend some work? A > table > >> would give you at the chance to select the next deeper/longer schedule > a > >> computer won't. > >> > >> My impression is that a computer is nothing worth without a proper > planing, > >but > >> then where is the advantage? You have to select the right gases, make a > gas > >> volume planing, make the deco calculations and tables in any way -- or > do > you > >> want to dive without having a contingency table? > >> > >> A thing I worry about is that computers will make divers more slopy. > They > >allow > >> users to shift away from the "Plan your dive, dive your plan!" > paradigm. > >> Also computers give more information than required. Hell, why do I need > to > >know > >> the current pO2 or CNS% ? There is enough task loading we don't need > such > an > >> information during a dive! You select your gases _before_ to stay out > of any > >> tox. problems! > >> > >> Greetings, Frank > >> > >> -- > >> Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > >> Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to > `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > > > >-- > > > > \ \ > >^_ \ \ Case E. Harris > > \ \ { \ US Deep Wreck Diving Team > > { \ / `~~~--__ diveman@cy*.co* > > { \___----~~' `~~-_ > > \ /// ` `~. ___ Oo > > / /~~~~-, ,__. , /// __,,,,) (___)o_o > > \/ \/ `~~~; ,---~~-_`~= //====--//(_) > > / / \\ ^ > > '._.' Deep...Professional...The Standard! > >-- > >Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > >Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > Learn About Trimix at http://www.cisatlantic.com/trimix/trimix.html > > > -- > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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