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From: "Chris Werner" <clw5232@ga*.ac*.fs*.ed*>
To: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>, "Case" <diveman@cy*.co*>
Subject: Re: Abyss Explorer Nitrox
Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 21:41:40 -0400
This is the best thing I've heard yet concerning this discussion. It just
doesn't need to be in the equation. Instead of wasting the money buy more
essential gear such as regs and bottles.

Chris

----- Original Message -----
From: Case <diveman@cy*.co*>
To: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 15, 1999 11:40 AM
Subject: Re: Abyss Explorer Nitrox


> Guys....we're forgetting THE MOST important reason why I'd rather dive
> tables than a computer ..... electronic devices can and will fail
> underwater!  I believe the question was posed as "What is the difference
> between following a deco schedule produced from a set of
> (computer-generated) tables, and following a deco schedule produced by a
> computer on your wrist?"  That's easy....if your 500 MHz Pentium III
> running Z Plan fails while calculating your dive information, chances
> are, you're not underwater in a life threatening situation.... When (not
> IF...but WHEN) your CockRing, or NiTEK (I hate that name!), or any deco
> computer fails in the middle of the dive, you're left with either backup
> tables and a timer, or pulling deco out your butt....
>
> since electronics do fail underwater, why not just skip that whole step
> and rely instead on the computer between your ears and a set of good
> tables....?
>
> -Case
> diveman@cy*.co*
>
> Frank Riffel wrote:
> >
> > "Taylor, John" wrote:
> >
> > > Dear List,
> > >
> > > Please enlighten me:
> > >
> > > What is the difference between following a deco schedule produced from
a set
> > > of (computer-generated) tables, and following a deco schedule produced
by a
> > > computer on your wrist? (Apart from algorithm differences and that the
> > > computer produces a schedule for the dive you actually did)
> >
> > Basicaly none. But you cannot account for deco related issues that are
not
> > addressed by the implemented algorithm. I mean which schedule would you
> > follow if you got into strong current and had to expend some work? A
table
> > would give you at the chance to select the next deeper/longer schedule a
> > computer won't.
> >
> > My impression is that a computer is nothing worth without a proper
planing, but
> > then where is the advantage? You have to select the right gases, make a
gas
> > volume planing, make the deco calculations and tables in any way -- or
do you
> > want to dive without having a contingency table?
> >
> > A thing I worry about is that computers will make divers more slopy.
They allow
> > users to shift away from the "Plan your dive, dive your plan!" paradigm.
> > Also computers give more information than required. Hell, why do I need
to know
> > the current pO2 or CNS% ?  There is enough task loading we don't need
such an
> > information during a dive! You select your gases _before_ to stay out of
any
> > tox. problems!
> >
> > Greetings, Frank
> >
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