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Subject: Re: Abyss Explorer Nitrox
Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 18:39:10 -0400
From: Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*>
To: "Case" <diveman@cy*.co*>, "Tech Diver" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Uh, Case, are you using the old sherwood wind-up bottom timers to avoid 
this problem?

 Jim

Sender: Case  Date: 5/15/99 11:40 AM

>Guys....we're forgetting THE MOST important reason why I'd rather dive
>tables than a computer ..... electronic devices can and will fail
>underwater!  I believe the question was posed as "What is the difference
>between following a deco schedule produced from a set of
>(computer-generated) tables, and following a deco schedule produced by a
>computer on your wrist?"  That's easy....if your 500 MHz Pentium III
>running Z Plan fails while calculating your dive information, chances
>are, you're not underwater in a life threatening situation.... When (not
>IF...but WHEN) your CockRing, or NiTEK (I hate that name!), or any deco
>computer fails in the middle of the dive, you're left with either backup
>tables and a timer, or pulling deco out your butt....
>
>since electronics do fail underwater, why not just skip that whole step
>and rely instead on the computer between your ears and a set of good
>tables....?
>
>-Case
>diveman@cy*.co*
>
>Frank Riffel wrote:
>> 
>> "Taylor, John" wrote:
>> 
>> > Dear List,
>> >
>> > Please enlighten me:
>> >
>> > What is the difference between following a deco schedule produced from a 
>set
>> > of (computer-generated) tables, and following a deco schedule produced by 
a
>> > computer on your wrist? (Apart from algorithm differences and that the
>> > computer produces a schedule for the dive you actually did)
>> 
>> Basicaly none. But you cannot account for deco related issues that are not
>> addressed by the implemented algorithm. I mean which schedule would you
>> follow if you got into strong current and had to expend some work? A table
>> would give you at the chance to select the next deeper/longer schedule a
>> computer won't.
>> 
>> My impression is that a computer is nothing worth without a proper planing, 
>but
>> then where is the advantage? You have to select the right gases, make a gas
>> volume planing, make the deco calculations and tables in any way -- or do 
you
>> want to dive without having a contingency table?
>> 
>> A thing I worry about is that computers will make divers more slopy. They 
>allow
>> users to shift away from the "Plan your dive, dive your plan!" paradigm.
>> Also computers give more information than required. Hell, why do I need to 
>know
>> the current pO2 or CNS% ?  There is enough task loading we don't need such 
an
>> information during a dive! You select your gases _before_ to stay out of any
>> tox. problems!
>> 
>> Greetings, Frank
>> 
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