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To: Jason
To: Rogers <gasdive@sy*.di*.oz*.au*>
To: techdiver@opal.com
Subject: Re: IWR plus Dry rebreather
From: scot@bt*.co* (Scot Anderson)
Date: Fri, 09 Dec 1994 09:22:56 -0500
Most thing I've ever noticed in a rebreather is the taste.  Slight, but
you know where it's been.


At 09:44 PM 12/9/94 +1100, Jason Rogers wrote:
>Hi everyone,
>Two things,
>
>Anthony Appleyard wrote;
>***quote***
>In rebreathers, how dry does the absorbent make the breathed gas? On a long
>dive does that often cause worse mouth dryness than is usual with aqualungs?
>***end quote***
>
>My understanding of CO2 absorbers is that they need some moisture to work
>and so the loop should remain moist, particularly as you are rebreathing
>your moist exhaled gas.  I haven't done enough time on a rebreather to
>say from experience though (damn it).  I think the normal moisture is
>about 10% but this is from memory, often hazy these days.
>
>Subject 2,
>
>Steve Hogan wrote
>***quote***
>...but if I felt symptoms coming on and the chamber is more than
>1-2 hours away (depending on my condition) I would *probably* opt for
>IWR also.
>***end quote***
>
>Kevin-Neil Klop wrote,
>***quote***
>...the coast guard could get to you in 1/2 an hour (because
>they have a base nearby), but that it will be 1 + 1/2 hours before you can
>enter a chamber (because the nearest available chamber is 1 + 1/4 hours
>flight time and it takes 1/4 hour from landing to entry into chamber).
>Should you have the helicopter standby (or not call them) and attempt IWR
>instead?
>
>I have a gut instinct that says "no".
>
>***end quote***
>
>Kevin's maths is a bit wonky here, he metions the 1/2 hour for the chopper
>reach the diver, but then it disappears from the calculation again.  Small
>point, it is a hypothetical (is that how you spell it) situation anyway.
>
>The point I want to make is that a Hyperbaric unit in Australia has advised
>me that the absolute minimum time required to assess a patient *before* they
>can be placed in a recompression chamber is *One Hour*.  If you feel as
>Steve does that a 1 or 2 hour delay would swing you toward IWR then you
>may need to factor that in.  If you are in a situation like Kevin, 1/2 hour
>to call a chopper (this is quite short, it takes a while to preflight them)
>plus 1+1/4 hour flight time (1+3/4 hours) plus 15 minutes to load the diver
>(2 hours) plus a 1 hour delay at the hospital you are faced with a
>minimum 3 hour delay.  That minimum of one hour, advised by the hospital,
>was if you called ahead, and the staff could be found to man (person?) the
>chamber.  If not then they would need to come in from home, and set up the
>chamber from scratch.
>
>If you *know* of facilities that can recompress in a significantly shorter
>time, please contact me, as I would like to pass this information on to
>the management of the chamber in question.
>
>Cheers Jason (Southern Hemisphere branch)  ;)
>
>
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