Robert, he is much more fun when he does everything opposite of the
WKPP. His insurance will get cancelled, sooner or later, and we will
have nobody to hammer unless he changes everything .

Anybody who wants to play the game for real comes to us anyway,and as
you suggest, everyone knows we are right, and everyone eventually comes
around to our way of doing everything anyway, if they live long enough.

I know he is ruinning the business for those of you who are in it, but
take comfort in the fact that eventually he will either be run out or
forced to do it our way. His standards will eventually look like I wrote
them. I might was well send him a copy of his new standards now.

Any and every reasonable person out there eventually does it or tries to
do it exactly the way we do it because it makes so much sesne, and it is
so obvious. Tom will merely serve to permanently dismantle every
argument agaist us, just as Stone did in cave diving.


Robert M. Carmichael wrote:
> 
> Tom,
> 
> I am very concerned at your lack of reasoning and logic on this issue as
> well. Please consider that the overwhelming majority of
> intelligent/successful divers whom I have contact with are firmly against
> your position. Give it a try, significantly better is important in this
> situation.
> 
> RMC
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill Mee [mailto:wwm@sa*.ne*]
> Sent: Thursday, April 29, 1999 4:52 PM
> To: Tom Mount; Ken Sallot; kirvine@sa*.ne*
> Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com; cavers@ca*.co*
> Subject: A Dead Skunk: The growing stink of Bottle Marking
> 
> Tom,
> 
> LIke a dead skunk in the road, the subject of bottle markings gets flatter
> and flatter, but the stink just won't go away. I have patiently read through
> your bottle marking standards.  Colored Regulator Jackets and flaky little
> peel off MOD stickers just do not cut it. The argument has been made to you
> politely, impolitely, nastily, obnoxiously and just about every other way
> possible, yet the most obvious solution to the problem still is missing.  It
> is inconcievable that you don't understand the rationale and logic behing
> the 3" MODs on either side of gas bottles.
> 
> My question is the following: What gives? You must a have a very big problem
> with this method or otherwise you would have incorporated it into your
> standards a long time ago.  There must be a good reason for not doing this.
> Maybe the reason is a private one and cannot be answered in public for
> reasons of liability or economics.  Fine, then plead the fifth.  Anyway,  I
> think you owe everyone out here a reasonable explanation for what it is that
> you cannot accept about this method.
> 
> I am not trying to be sarcastic and a wise guy here.  I am just very curious
> as to what the extreme prejudicial reason is for your finding double sided
> 3" MODs less acceptable than scotch tape and colored regulator  jackets.
> This is a fair question and since you are already out here in the midst of a
> discussion on this public forum, in the capacity of director of the largest
> technical diving organization on earth, you are fair game.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Bill
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tom Mount <TOM.MOUNT@wo*.at*.ne*>
> To: Ken Sallot <sallot@mi*.co*>; kirvine@sa*.ne*
> <kirvine@sa*.ne*>
> Cc: bdi@wh*.ne* <bdi@wh*.ne*>; William J Turbeville II <bturbo@ga*.ne*>;
> techdiver@aquanaut.com <techdiver@aquanaut.com>; cavers@ca*.co*
> <cavers@ca*.co*>
> Date: Thursday, April 29, 1999 9:22 AM
> Subject: Re: Fatality at Die Polder III
> 
> >Ken
> >It is not just color coding however as any photography can tell you and you
> >can prove by looking there are colors such as green, yellow and pink that
> >are still visible at depth regardless of ROY G BIV. They are less brilliant
> >but still seeable but the point is not the color it is they state oxygen 0r
> >deco gas I or Nitrox is highly visible wording. so they are readable to all
> >and identify the gas type and in deco gas and Oxygen state mod on them,
> >Second the contents tape is readable to the diver, third the MOD is
> readable
> >to all, fourth the mountpeice wrap is completely noticeable as you cannot
> >breat around it.
> >
> >Please remove me from your CC list
> >
> >Respectfully yours,
> >Tom Mount
> >CEO IANTD World HQ
> >http://www.iantd.com
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Ken Sallot <sallot@mi*.co*>
> >To: kirvine@sa*.ne* <kirvine@sa*.ne*>
> >Cc: bdi@wh*.ne* <bdi@wh*.ne*>; Tom Mount <TOM.MOUNT@wo*.at*.ne*>;
> >William J Turbeville II <bturbo@ga*.ne*>; techdiver@aquanaut.com
> ><techdiver@aquanaut.com>; cavers@ca*.co* <cavers@ca*.co*>
> >Date: Thursday, April 29, 1999 8:00 AM
> >Subject: Re: Fatality at Die Polder III
> >
> >
> >>Even your typical Openwater 1 student should be able to tell you that
> >>color coding things is stupid if for no other reason then ROYGBIV. Next
> >>we'll hear about how the students should sniff the gases to determin the
> >>proper amount of oxygen in the mix.
> >>
> >>kirvine@sa*.ne* wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Billy , this is what happened with Jane ORensten - not only did they
> >>> have no idea what was in the tanks by looking at them, they never even
> >>> noticed she was breathing the wrong one based on the side bullshit that
> >>> Mount subscribes to ( and actually REQUIRES instructors to do if you can
> >>> believe that ), and they did not notice that the colored regs , poodle
> >>> jackets and the rest of the claptrap was wrong.
> >>
> >>--
> >>"What's terrible is to pretend that the second-rate
> >>is first-rate."
> >>                      -- Doris Lessing
> >>                       (British writer)
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> 
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