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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 10:40:49 -0500
To: "Tom Mount" <TOM.MOUNT@wo*.at*.ne*>,
     "Ken Sallot" ,
     "georget Irvine"
From: Nanci LeVake <nlevake@pi*.co*>
Subject: Re: Fatality at Die Polder III
Cc: "William J Turbeville II" <bturbo@ga*.ne*>, <techdiver@aquanaut.com>,
    
At 09:41 AM 4/28/99 -0400, Tom Mount wrote:
(snip)
>The diver made a human error which proved to be fatal, this is what we are
>all trying to avoid it is the reason we have the labeling standards we do.
>It is
>certainly the safest method to cover all basses.

Well, _first_ they took a gas deeper than its MOD.  If they hadn't done
that, this wouldn't have happened at all.  Then one diver made a human
error, and his so-called "buddy", who was there for the express purpose of
backing up the fallible brain, did not do his job.  Those two _should have_
been facing each other at all times during the stage bottle pick up.  The
"buddy" should have noticed IMMEDIATELY that the diver was about to breathe
the wrong bottle, (had it been properly marked) and prevented this from
happening.  Or were they doing some goofy crap like carrying the bottles
with them for the entire dive???????  It is _so_ easy not to kill yourself
when you dive.  It's when you start breaking simple safety rules and
convoluting everything that deaths occur.

Nanci

>Now the real problem is making divers follow these safety procedures (or
>even yours) outside of a class or a project.
>
>We have taken steps to have our facilities start tight enforcement of these
>issues. However this does not cover those who do their own nor non
>facilities al we can do is hope they will follow these or similar
>procedure(including yours).
>
>Unfortunately many of the more experienced divers are the ones who
>tend to ignore these practices when diving on their own. A fact history has
>already proven.
>
>Respectfully yours,
>Tom Mount
>CEO IANTD World HQ
>http://www.iantd.com
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: kirvine@sa*.ne* <kirvine@sa*.ne*>
>To: Ken Sallot <sallot@mi*.co*>
>Cc: freeattic@co*.ci*.uf*.ed* <freeattic@co*.ci*.uf*.ed*>;
>cavers@ca*.co* <cavers@ca*.co*>; techdiver@aquanaut.com
><techdiver@aquanaut.com>; tom.mount@wo*.at*.ne*
><tom.mount@wo*.at*.ne*>
>Date: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 6:13 AM
>Subject: Re: Fatality at Die Polder III
>
>
>>Ken, try talking to your dog - at least he will wag his tail. To talk to
>>this guy and his "board of advisors" you need a translator - see
>>Rennaker and have him bring some of his farm animal buddies to do the
>>talking, like Mr Ed or Elsie.
>>
>>Don't waate your breath, diving as we know it is done. Our organiztion
>>may be the only survivor. Gavin prdicted this years ago, and Parker
>>Turner took this to Tom years ago . It has only gotten worse.
>>
>>Ken Sallot wrote:
>>>
>>> Tom,
>>>
>>> How many people have to fucking die before you get it through your thick
>>> skull about how bottles should be marked? 60' on pure fucking oxygen?
>>> What the hell gives with that shit?
>>>
>>> Ken Sallot
>>> WKPP
>>> --
>>> "What's terrible is to pretend that the second-rate
>>> is first-rate."
>>>                       -- Doris Lessing
>>>                        (British writer)
>>
>>
>>
>

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