Mailing List Archive

Mailing List: techdiver

Banner Advert

Message Display

Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 18:06:27 -0400
To: Michael Cunningham <malice@ex*.co*>
From: Mike Rodriguez <mikey@ma*.co*>
Subject: RE: Trimix Question
Cc: "David Shimell (shimell)" <shimell@se*.co*>, pdisler@io*.ne*,
At 04:49 PM 4/20/99 -0400, Michael Cunningham wrote:

>> While it is true that increasing temperature causes the
>> viscosity of fluids to decrease, increasing temperature
>> causes the viscosity of gases to *increase*.  Counter-intuitive,
>> but true.
>
>When you apply heat to gas molecules they begin to move faster 
>dont they? This would indicate that the viscosity decreases as
>a result of the increased movement.

What heating a gas does is decrease its *density* not its
viscosity which is a different animal altogether.

>Cooling a gas or any molecule
>for that matter will slow the molecule movements down. This is
>the point of absolute zero basically.. a temperate where no
>reactions occur.

You're confusing density with viscosity.

>If you are correct, then how does heating a 
>gas decrease the movement of the gas or energy basically, when
>you are removing energy from the gas by cooling it per your
>hypothesis. 

It's not a hypothesis.  This property can be demonstrated
with a viscometer in a high-school chemistry lab.

I'll try to explain why this happens.  Note that the math
behind the explanation is outrageously complicated and
could easily fill a book, so I'll leave it out here.  If
you're interested in the math, write me privately so we
don't bore the list.

Viscous drag in liquids is caused by short-range molecular
cohesive forces, but in gases it's caused by collisions
between fast-moving molecules.

Although it's easy to intuitively accept that the viscosity
of liquids drops with temperature, it's not easy to
explain and science has yet to conclusively explain it.
The consensus is that it probably has to do with the fact
that at higher temperatures, the molecules of a liquid are
farther apart so the cohesive forces of internal molecular
friction are reduced.

The increase in viscosity of gases with increasing temperature
is easier to explain.  Viscosity in gases is caused by
molecular collisions.  At higher temperatures, the molecules
move more quickly and collide more often causing the rise
in internal friction and hence viscosity.

As an aside, it's interesting to note that helium II (He
at < 2.2K) has practically no viscosity at all.  This,
despite it being a liquid.  It flows more easily than a
gas and can flow through apertures that would stop a gas.
If left in a beaker, it will creep up the inside surface
of the beaker, over the edge, and flow out of the beaker
on its own.  If you carefully stood a pencil on its
eraser, then dumped a bucket of He II onto it, the pencil
would not fall; the He II would just flow around the
pencil with so little friction as to not disturb it.
I know... it's counter-intuitive, but it's true and can
be easily demonstrated in a chemistry lab.

-Mike Rodriguez
<mikey@ma*.co*>

--
Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'.
Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.

Navigate by Author: [Previous] [Next] [Author Search Index]
Navigate by Subject: [Previous] [Next] [Subject Search Index]

[Send Reply] [Send Message with New Topic]

[Search Selection] [Mailing List Home] [Home]