I'm not sure about the temperature actually being that much of an influence on the ending reading. I have found that generally low O2 % mixes such as "deep" Tri-Mix'es generally homogenize to the final desired analysis over a period of a few hours. I've found that high O2 mixes that if filled with O2 and topped with air and allowed to sit without agitation, can render an inaccurate analysis a day later. At that point, a simple "roll" around the garage will suffice to get you what you were looking for! Jim Cobb wrote: > I don't know about you guys but I think the problem we are dealing with > here is the temperature of the mix rather than stratification. As the mix > cools off the reading becomes more accurate. > > Jim > > Sender: Steve Hogan Date: 4/8/99 6:53 PM > > > > >I have run into this and have modified my mixing procedures > >so that after I add the O2 to the helium I wait 1 day (I > >usually mix at night so waiting around is not appealing) > >before measuring the O2 % (O2 & He). It is not hard to figure > >out what percentage I expect after mixing O2 with He. > >Next step is to add air, wait a few hours (usually doing > >something else) and then measure again. > >I fill about 50 psi/min so I expect to not get much mixing from > >Brownian motion. > > > >Steve > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Patricia Disler [mailto:pdisler@io*.ne*] > >Sent: Friday, April 09, 1999 1:14 PM > >To: S I L E N T I M M E R S I O N > >Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com > >Subject: Re: Trimix Question > > > > > > > > > > > >At 09:16 AM 4/8/99 -0700, you wrote: > >>Frank, > >> > >>>Not me, but I do let the filled tanks rest a day before analyzing. An if > >>>you want to tell me > >>>thats not neseccary I recommend that you try this: Fill oxygen, top with > >>>air, wait a minute, > >>>analyze mix, turn the tank so that the valve faces ground, wait another > >>>minute and than > >>>re-analyze the mix. > >> > >>And it's the same... or not? > >>When filling a tank the temperature and pressure are high which in turn > >>gives a high diffusion coefficient. Makes the mix homogeneous almost > >>instantaneoulsy (couple of seconds). > >>What kind of differences do you get? > >>What kind of analyser do you use, are you sure the hoses are drained when > >>using a regulator or something? > >> > >>Regards,> > >>THOMAS > > > >I have witnessed Nitrox mixtures take a while to fully homogenize. Several > >years ago while mixing 80/20, (Yeah I know don't start) it came out 63% O2 > >approx 30 min after the very s-l-o-w top off to fill pressure. Yes I > >checked the calibration of the aynalizer (Teledyne TD-50). Each time I > >would check the O2 reading would climb. I did this over a period of several > >hours. Later it was right on 80%. > >I'd have to say stratification can and does occur, esp. if there is not > >enough turbulence during top off. > >I have never seen this with Trimix as the fill rates are much higher. > >However I suppose it could occur if they too were topped slowly. > >At any rate I never seem to dive my gas until they show the correct mixture. > > > > > > > >"SILT HAPPENS"JD JEFF DISLER > > SAFE CAVING NSS 26000 > >-- > >Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > >Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > >-- > >Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > >Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > Learn About Trimix at http://www.cisatlantic.com/trimix/trimix.html > > -- > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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