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Hey, I didn't spend 49.95 for my dive tables, neither did I spend a penny for Zplan. Lacking anything else, that's what we have to trust our lives on. Until now, I'm getting away with it too;-) touch wood I understand your rationale on all this, but I repeat, most divers don't do 8-16 hours deco. I don't mind adding 5 minutes on a 1.5 hour dive (including deco) and I guess that's the point. The WKPP would be forever in the water if they didn't do the deep stops to shorten the shallow ones, which is very brave of them. Still, there were incidents, which of course is also to be expected when you are experimenting with this stuff. Until some real 'public' software is distilled out of the experiences the WKPP, Richard Pyle , Comex and all the others have had during their formidable dives (which means never, seeing the liability laws in the US) , all us common guys out here have to rely on what we can buy in the real world, which is programs like Decom, The Abyss, XS, Proplanner and other Voyagers Migplans or Zplans. Or, if you really want to stretch it, use tables. Btw: nice anecdote on C.P. Anyway, thanks for enlightening us, and please, don't hold back. rgrds --- Adri KC Haine darkangel@en*.co* "Killer factors in technical diving are complacency, attitude, oxygen toxicity, exceeding personal limits, ignorance and complexity." Mike Menduno - EuroTek 95 On Fri, 2 Apr 1999 21:33:55 Jess Armantrout wrote: >It never ceases to amaze me how people will trust a $49.95 piece of software >written by a guy they have never met before they will trust somebody they >are standing there talking to who does this stuff on a regular basis. > >Hey, Mike, where do you think Abdur gets most of his ideas? From input from >the WKPP, Richard Pyle and others out there doing the dives! Why do you >think we are not on version 1.0. Because this stuff is evolving. The hard >data IS our pesonal experience. We are the guinea pigs. There is no >controled scientific data because nobody is stupid enough to do this kind of >diving in a lab. > >I am reminded of a story Joe Odom told me. Chris Parrot, after launching >his very successful decompression software program, the Abyss, decided he >probably should learn how to trimix dive. Chris met up with Joe at 40 >fathom shithole, Joe described they layout and asked Chris what Abyss said >the deco should be. Chris supposedly whipped out some tables and >confidently gave them to Joe. Joe looked at them and put them in his >pocket. "What next?" asked Chris. "Get your shit and get in the water," >Joe replied. "Uh, what a minute, I need to check something..." Chris >supposedly said. "Nope," replied Joe, "nobody else get's to 'check >something' when they use your program. Get in the water and let's see if it >works." > >I love that story. > >Trout > __________________________________________________________________ Get your own free England E-mail address at http://www.england.com -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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