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Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 21:53:01 -0500
From: Ken Sallot <sallot@mi*.co*>
Organization: WKPP
To: Mike Rodriguez <mikey@ma*.co*>, techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: Deep deco question
Thanks for posting the deco schedules and your wealth of experience on
deep stops. I haven't laughed that hard since I read the post about
using a long tube gavin for "digging".

Ken

Mike Rodriguez wrote:
> 
> At 05:31 AM 4/2/99 -0600, Jess Armantrout wrote:
> 
> >>The purpose of deep-stops is to reduce the fatigue (generally
> >>believed to be sub-clinical DCS) that is often associated
> >>with deep/deco diving.
> >
> >
> >no, it is for all symptoms of dcs.
> 
> >From the Decom help file:
> 
> "Divers utilizing deep stops report a lessened degree of
> fatigue."
> 
> I agree that deep-stops reduce all symptoms of DCS, not just
> fatigue; however, in my conversations with divers who use
> deep stops, I've found that most use them to reduce fatigue,
> not to reduce other DCS symptoms.  This seems to be because
> fatigue is very common after diving, while more serious
> DCS symptoms are rare.  Also, most of the divers I've
> spoken to use conservative deco schedules rather than deep-
> stops to help avoid DCS.  If they also use deep-stops, they
> do so to reduce fatigue.
> 
> So, in this context, I stand behind my original statement.
> 
> >>Note that deep-stops have not been demonstrated to decrease
> >>the incidence of DCS, however deep-stops will almost
> >>certainly NOT INCREASE the incidence of DCS.
> >>
> >
> >
> >yes, deep stops have been demonstrated to decrease the incidence of dcs in
> >Richard Pyle and in the WKPP mixed gas exploration divers.  Failure to de
> >them has been demonstrated to increase dcs in the same subjects.
> 
> >From the Decom help file:
> 
> "The numbers are not in on any reduction of DCS
> from this method. It will however NOT increase your rate
> of DCS incidence."
> 
> If there is newer information available, please point us to
> it.  I'm very interested in reading it.
> 
> >>Effectively, deeps-stops slow your ascent to prevent
> >>sub-clinical DCS from beginning in your saturated
> >>fast tissues yet keep your ascent fast enough to prevent
> >>your slow tissues from loading up on N2/He.  In practice,
> >>deep-stops add only a few (~5) minutes of deco time to
> >>the typical tech dive.
> >>
> >
> >
> >no, done correctly deep stops reduce deco time
> 
> Generated by Decom:
> 
> Deep stops = YES
> Total deco time = *94*
> Depth Time   DT
>   200   30   30
>   120    1   34
>   110    1   35
>   100    1   36
>    90    1   37
>    80    1   38
>    70    3   41
>    60    6   47
>    50    7   54
>    40   14   68
>    30   20   88
>    20   15  103
>    10   24  127
> 
> Deep stops = NO
> Total deco time = *90*
> Depth Time   DT
>   200   30   30
>    80    3   37
>    70    3   40
>    60    6   46
>    50    7   53
>    40   14   67
>    30   18   85
>    20   15  100
>    10   24  124
> 
> -Mike Rodriguez
> <mikey@ma*.co*>
> 
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