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Subject: RE: Zeagle Wings
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 15:06:56 -0500
From: Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*>
To: "David Shimell (shimell)" <shimell@se*.co*>,
     "James Dibbs" ,
     "'techdiver@aquanaut.com' "
Yeah, but other than this, they're fine, right? Esp. w/the single tank 
adapter?

   Jim

Sender: David Shimell (shimell)  Date: 3/23/99 11:28 AM

>James
>
>Warning, Coke Alert.
>
>The usual answer you get from this list is that Zeagle wings stink.  In
>reality they are not too bad.
>
>Well, except for those stupid weight pouches with pull dumps.  Hey, I was
>only on a 10 metre dive when one weight pouch fell out of my wing when a
>weight release cord got snagged - one of those red plastic cords near the
>seam.  It was only 10 metres!  I was unlucky, one-in-a-thousand chance.  Its
>not as if I lost both weights and went ballistic to the surface, only a
>slightly uncomfortable but inevitable ascent.  I wasn't really enjoying the
>dive anyway.
>
>In fact very much like the 44 metre dive I was doing with about 20 minutes
>of deco when the pull dump on the inflator corrugated hose jammed open and I
>slowly lost gas from the wing. Hardly fair at the time as I wasn't even
>pulling the hose to dump.  Now, on that dive it didn't really matter as I
>was ascending anyway.  If you think about it, this is a real bonus as these
>wings helped me to extend my bottom time.  What other wings do that for you?
>Also, think about the effort saved with pull dumps as there is no longer is
>there any need to raise your arm to dump.  A Godsend.
>
>But then the waist fastenings are really comfortable.  Oh but I forgot, you
>can't add a canister light to the waist strap and so have to come up with a
>convoluted method to attach it elsewhere.  Not really a problem as most
>people don't have a canister light anyway.  If they did they are doing
>technical stuff so should go buy some technical gear.   When Zeagle call
>them a "technical BC" you must remember that this is a phrase suggested by
>the marketing department and don't take it too literally.  You didn't did
>you?
>
>That crotch strap is also really comfortable splitting in a Y-shape either
>side of you most sensitive parts.  A good design for us chaps.  Damn, where
>do I fit my scooter ring.  Don't worry you can always get the crotch strap
>replaced if you ever need to scooter.  Removing it is real easy because the
>fastenings are so flimsy.  One of mine even anticipated this and came loose
>of it own accord.  Silly me for not checking it before every dive just like
>I don't have to do with my wing, harness and backplate.
>
>At least with the new versions you can adjust the position of some of the
>D-rings unless you were unlucky enough to have one of the old models with
>the stitched D-rings.  Talking of stitching.  Isn't is really well done.
>Even though its not really needed it does look good.  Nice to see a quality
>stitching.
>
>The waist buckle is stitched on really nicely too.  I didn't realise it at
>the time but this would have been a bonus.  I wanted my knife on my waste
>belt, just like a gun as GMI3 says.  The thought of this made me quiver in
>excitement.  I used to stand in from of the mirror saying, "you looking at
>me", and then going for my weapon.  But damn, I could not slip off the
>buckle without un-stitching it.  Which I did not want to do, as it was such
>fine and manly stitching.  I resorted to the saviour of all divers, a cable
>tie.  Now, I had my weapon in my holster on my waist.  Now don't believe Jim
>Cobb when he says CTs come undone.  You may think from the above that I'm a
>bit of a walking disaster - not true.  My cable ties never broke and my
>weapon stayed in place.  I never had to use my weapon underwater but if I
>had, I'm certain that there is a strong chance that it would still be there.
>This is just a myth about Murphy.  The grim reaper is just a story told to
>frighten young children.
>
>The pockets are really useful too, shame they are a bugger to open and are
>hardly big enough to hold a spare air.
>
>Bondage.  Great, Zeagle wings are not bondage wings so they've got to be OK.
>However, Zeagle cater for this aspect of our consenting population who like
>bondage, albeit in the privacy of their own home and dive boats.  How about
>all those clips and straps.  Only three across the chest, two on the
>shoulder harness and two on the crotch strap.  These boys will hold you in
>securely and you'll feel snug.  I really like the chest straps myself as
>they show off my manly physique when my chest bulges as I'm trying to
>breath.  No matter what they say on this list, chest straps hardly restrict
>breathing at all.
>
>Forget DIR and "systems" they don't apply to the market Zeagle target.
>
>You know the thing I most like about the Zeagle wings is that they are
>Stealth Ninja Black.   As I say, great wings I dived them for a couple of
>years before I changed to DIR as I hope you will.  Sorry for the flippancy
>but the points are valid and the events real, well except for the mirror
>bit, honest.
>
>David Shimell
>Project Manager, Sequent Computer Systems Ltd., Sandton, South Africa.
>Email: shimell@se*.co* <mailto:shimell@se*.co*> 
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From:	James Dibbs [SMTP:JDibbs@ma*.co*.au*]
>Sent:	Monday, March 22, 1999 2:44 AM
>To:	'techdiver@aquanaut.com'
>Subject:	Zeagle Wings
>
>I have read some threads about the pros and cons of different wing types. In
>particular there was a comparison between Zeagle wings and Dive Rite
>original wings. 
>
>Could someone please tell ne what shortcomings Zeagle wings have? 
>
>I also use a Zeagle tech BCD. I realise that this doese not fit in with the
>DIR philosophy but as BCDS go, how do they rate, and if they stink, why?
>
>All responses greatly appreciated.
>
>James Dibbs
>Macquarie Bank Limited
>Ph: 9237-6257
>M: 0411-21-35-99
>Email: jdibbs@ma*.co*.au*
>
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