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Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 15:31:28 -0900
From: Patrick Duffy <pduffy@al*.ne*>
To: kirvine@sa*.ne*
CC: Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*>, techdiver <techdiver@aquanaut.com>,
     cavers@ca*.co*, Bill Mee ,
     John Allen , Bill Allen
Subject: Re: WKPP Scooters: Yet Another Knockoff
Who in their right mind would purchase an unproven scooter for that
price when they could get something that has obviously been tested for
$100 more?

It looked like a cheap copy because the nose cone seemed distorted (kind
of like putting ice cream on a cone).

What really offends me is that it was false advertising!  Even if this
was a the real thing, I would rather see the profit go to the WKPP
efforts than save $100.

Just my thoughts.

Patrick


kirvine@sa*.ne* wrote:
> 
> Jim, anyone and everyone who wants a "Gavin" scooter can buy them from
> the WKPP , either from me, from Carmichael, or from one of his dealers.
> Having some dumb f--- making bullshit copies and selling them for 100
> dollars less than we do is not the answer. Having scooters with no
> support in place is bullhsit. Having scooters with hit or miss parts and
> qualitly is bullshit. Having scooters made by dumb asses like Curt, or
> mark Long, or Mark Meadows, or anyone else who is a proven idiot is
> bullshit.
> 
> Look at what Stone went through trying to copy these things. It ruined
> his whole project ( or at least provided a convenient excuse for the
> failure of his project). Stone had King's money, he is an "engineer", he
> stole one of mine to copy, and look at the result.
> 
> The dive game is full of jerkoffs - don't let them get your money. We
> make these things for the project, you buy them from the project, the
> proceeds support the project and they suport the outstanding fleet. The
> value of our scooters holds up for those who have bought them, and we
> stand behind them and have done so for the last nine years.
> 
> Don't be making comments about Corvettes and Ferraris. My best friend
> has a Ferrari, and I have a Corvette. My Vette will not only eat his
> Ferrari for lunch in any realistic contest, like 100 mph up and stopped
> by the next traffic light, but the windows roll all the way down, the
> air conditioning works, you can listen ( actually hear) to music and
> breath in the car, and all I have to do is put gas in it. I do not even
> know how to open the hood - it is not necessary. I take it to the Chevy
> dealer, not some bucket shop bullshit toy store full of fags with fake
> British acccents every 3000 miles and he changes the oil , services the
> car, and waxes it, while giving me one to drive. Sound like a fair
> comparison? It is.
> 
> The market for Corvettes and Gavins is the some - those who want them
> can get them from real players, not assholes.
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