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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 11:33:25 +1100
To: deep6@se*.co*
From: bdi <bdi@wh*.ne*>
Subject: Re: Upside down tank mounting and other convolutions
Cc: techdiver <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
At 04:43 AM 18/3/99 -0500, Don Mason wrote:
>My primary concern with this is not upsetting the reg that I have still need to
>access.  Although switching the 02 reg would be easier I agree from the visual
>standpoint, to me it seems you could create a potential problem. You still need
>both  deco regs. If one is gone you have no back up. Your back gas is now an
>option why not use one of those for a fix.

I think I'd be concerned with isolating and solving
the problem at the stages, without involving my 
primary source of bouyancy and thermal control.

>The dry suit inflation (if needed you are at 70 feet and rising at this point)
>could be solved just by reconnecting the hose once its on the deco tank.

Yeah, you're right.

>I reread # 8 and I have to say that would be difficult . First I do no "real"
>diving  all my diving is  ocean diving. So moving up is not a simple crawl
>along a slope, its following a bouncing  a rope upward.

Nearly all of my diving is ocean. I'd find it easier 
to maintain a nice steady ascent rate and run time if 
I had to just unscrew a reg in front of me.

I think I'd have to stop and hang on or clip into the
up line if i were to try to get a reg off from behind my 
shoulder.

>Instead of pre forming several tasks at once wouldn't it be easier just to stop
>and sort out the problem and move on. Schedules are not that critical where a
>minute or two would cause any adverse effect other that added inwater time.

But with the stages in front of you, unscrewing a
reg is no more difficult than unstowing a john line or
reading the tables or any of the other things we
regularly do while ascending.

>Another point to add here is what if it was a two gas dive? Then the option of
>the other deco reg is not there. Then you would have to switch back for stage.

Well I was thinking through the dive you described
with two or more deco gasses. 

With a two gas dive, I'd just deco out on the back 
gas.

If I had to go to for the left post reg, seeing as I
dive 300 bar DINs which sometimes need two hands to
wrok undone, I think I'td be quicker and easier
if I just swam over and unscrewed Jim's.

rgds    billyw


>bdi wrote:
>
>> At 02:24 PM 15/3/99 -0500, Craig Waldman wrote:
>>
>> >From: Don Mason <deep6@se*.co*>>:
>>
>> >> Imagine your doing a three gas dive. Your reg craps out on your deep deco
>> >>mix.What to do.On your deepest deco stop,
>> >> Simple remove the left post reg and install it on the stage.You still have
>> >> inflation ,back gas for air breaks and you left the 02 bottle alone.
>>
>> Don, swaping in another stage reg (02 if necessary)
>> is safer, easier, and will work under more circumstances
>> and with more configurations, because:
>>
>> 1. You still have inflation.
>> 2. You still have back-gas for air breaks.
>> 3. You leave your bouyancy control system intact.
>> 4. You can see what you're doing.
>> 5. The change is simpler, easier and quicker.
>> 6. it doesn't eliminate your drysuit inflation (if
>>    you're not using argon).
>> 7. If you lose a reg, you can still access your
>>    back-gas for air breaks.
>> 8. You can change the regs on the move - like when
>>    you go to a deco gas at its MOD on the way to
>>    a stop
>> 9. The rest of the world dives DIN, not yoke and
>>    you'd have a hard time getting a DIN reg off a
>>    post behind your head,(assuming, in light of the
>>    above, you'd want to).
>>
>> rgrds    billyw
>>
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