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Kevin, I only take what I need. If the light is not needed, I do not take it. I always have two backup lights. Steve -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Connell [mailto:kevin@nw*.co*] Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 1999 9:16 AM To: Steve Hogan Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com Subject: RE: Weight belts and backplates It's my understanding the the cannister light (14AH) is 7lbs negative. Why would you dive without a light? Its a system, not a bunch of pieces. DIR or DDIAA. At 09:12 AM 3/16/1999 -0800, you wrote: >Kevin, > >I found the V-weight interferred with the argon bottle. A solution >was to notch out where the argon bottle strap goes. This still >did not provide good trim for me. so I moved it. > >I still need the weight (all of 6 lbs), but not as a V-weight. >This is when I am diving without my canister light. When I use >my canister light, then no weight is needed. > >My canister light is not 6 lbs negative, only three. I use 6 >lbs as smaller weights move or fall out. > >Steve > >-----Original Message----- >From: Kevin Connell [mailto:kevin@nw*.co*] >Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 1999 9:04 AM >To: Steve Hogan >Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com >Subject: RE: Weight belts and backplates > > >Steve, you're quoted below saying weight is needed, and that a v-weight >doesn't work well with an argon bottle, neither of which are true. > >There, I said it without an insult. > >At 08:30 AM 3/16/1999 -0800, you wrote: >>More insults... >> >>As you will see in a message that I just sent to Cobb, >>The trim is far better (for me) than the V weight. >> >>FWIW, I dive in Southern Californina (Sunday 52 deg) >> >>Why don't you explain what you are doing instead of assuming >>that anyone diving different than you is doing is wrong? >> >>Steve >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Kevin Connell [mailto:kevin@nw*.co*] >>Sent: Monday, March 15, 1999 8:25 PM >>To: Steve Hogan >>Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com >>Subject: RE: Weight belts and backplates >> >> >>Yes, steve, please tell us about your cold water drysuit diving. >> >>It must be a miracle how I dive in 41f water without any weight. Or, maybe >>it's just that I do it right, and you do it wrong. >> >> >>At 06:15 PM 3/15/1999 -0800, you wrote: >>>Cobb, >>> >>>You didn't answer the question. >>> >>>For cold water/drysuit diving more lead is required. A V-Weight >>>does not work very well with the Argon bottle, so one needs to >>>add weight somewhere. >>> >>>I have found that I need 6 lbs (for the end of the dive to be neutral) >>>I use two canvas pockets that I slide on to the waist belt. I have made >>>them so I *can* ditch weight if I choose to. No big deal. Ths also allows >>>me to use the same BC for warm water/cold water, single tanks/double >tanks. >>>The pockets are also a good place to put a jon line, notes, whatever. >>> >>>The stainless steel backplate would be way too much in warm water (- 8lb) >>>So I made the pockets. I can also remove these underwater (with gloves) >>>if necessary and they do not get in the way. >>> >>>Yes, I could optimize with two different BCs (SS and AL), but why? >>>This system allows flexibility without compromising any other piece of >>>equipment. Besides, I would much rather drop a weight than my canister. >>> >>>Steve >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: Jim Cobb [mailto:cobber@ci*.co*] >>>Sent: Monday, March 15, 1999 5:08 PM >>>To: RLucas1013@ao*.co*; Tech Diver >>>Subject: Re: Weight belts and backplates >>> >>> >>>In warm water ocean diving when properly configured you are only putting >>>about 6 lbs or so on your weightbelt. The whole point of the exercise is >>>for you to be able to swim up to the surface, not to ditch your weights >>>in a mad panic and head to the surface like a goddamn polaris missle. >>> >>>If you are tech diving in cold water with a 7mm farmer john that needs >>>35lbs of lead to sink then you are Doing It Wrong. You need to be in a >>>drysuit, a wetsuit is not an option here. And if you are in a drysuit you >>>have 2 ways of getting yourself to the surface. If you need a little >>>extra buoyancy you drop your cannister light and your tools. >>> >>>And while George knows of what he speaks, he is stating common sense, not >>>dogma. If you think a little about the situation I think you will agree. >>> >>> Jim >>> >>>Sender: RLucas1013@ao*.co* Date: 3/15/99 5:02 PM >>> >>>>I thought the idea of a weight belt was to drop in an emergency. George >>has >>>>stated diving with double alum tanks and a wet suit a weight belt is the >>>way >>>>to go in open ocean, so in case of an emergency drop the weight. How do >>you >>>>drop a V weight in an emergency with double alum tanks and a wet suit if >>>that >>>>is what you were referring to? In any event how do you drop a V weight in >>>an >>>>emergency in open water? >>>>BOB >>>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Learn About Trimix at http://www.cisatlantic.com/trimix/trimix.html >>> >>> >>>-- >>>Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. >>>Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. >>>-- >>>Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. >>>Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. >>> >>----------------------------------------------- >>Kevin Connell <kevin@nw*.co*> >> >>NW Labor Systems, Inc >>http://www.nwls.com >> >>And I suppose you want a user interface with >>that..... >>----------------------------------------------- >> >----------------------------------------------- >Kevin Connell <kevin@nw*.co*> > >NW Labor Systems, Inc >http://www.nwls.com > >And I suppose you want a user interface with >that..... >----------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------------------------- Kevin Connell <kevin@nw*.co*> NW Labor Systems, Inc http://www.nwls.com And I suppose you want a user interface with that..... ----------------------------------------------- -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. 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