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Steve, you're quoted below saying weight is needed, and that a v-weight doesn't work well with an argon bottle, neither of which are true. There, I said it without an insult. At 08:30 AM 3/16/1999 -0800, you wrote: >More insults... > >As you will see in a message that I just sent to Cobb, >The trim is far better (for me) than the V weight. > >FWIW, I dive in Southern Californina (Sunday 52 deg) > >Why don't you explain what you are doing instead of assuming >that anyone diving different than you is doing is wrong? > >Steve > >-----Original Message----- >From: Kevin Connell [mailto:kevin@nw*.co*] >Sent: Monday, March 15, 1999 8:25 PM >To: Steve Hogan >Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com >Subject: RE: Weight belts and backplates > > >Yes, steve, please tell us about your cold water drysuit diving. > >It must be a miracle how I dive in 41f water without any weight. Or, maybe >it's just that I do it right, and you do it wrong. > > >At 06:15 PM 3/15/1999 -0800, you wrote: >>Cobb, >> >>You didn't answer the question. >> >>For cold water/drysuit diving more lead is required. A V-Weight >>does not work very well with the Argon bottle, so one needs to >>add weight somewhere. >> >>I have found that I need 6 lbs (for the end of the dive to be neutral) >>I use two canvas pockets that I slide on to the waist belt. I have made >>them so I *can* ditch weight if I choose to. No big deal. Ths also allows >>me to use the same BC for warm water/cold water, single tanks/double tanks. >>The pockets are also a good place to put a jon line, notes, whatever. >> >>The stainless steel backplate would be way too much in warm water (- 8lb) >>So I made the pockets. I can also remove these underwater (with gloves) >>if necessary and they do not get in the way. >> >>Yes, I could optimize with two different BCs (SS and AL), but why? >>This system allows flexibility without compromising any other piece of >>equipment. Besides, I would much rather drop a weight than my canister. >> >>Steve >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Jim Cobb [mailto:cobber@ci*.co*] >>Sent: Monday, March 15, 1999 5:08 PM >>To: RLucas1013@ao*.co*; Tech Diver >>Subject: Re: Weight belts and backplates >> >> >>In warm water ocean diving when properly configured you are only putting >>about 6 lbs or so on your weightbelt. The whole point of the exercise is >>for you to be able to swim up to the surface, not to ditch your weights >>in a mad panic and head to the surface like a goddamn polaris missle. >> >>If you are tech diving in cold water with a 7mm farmer john that needs >>35lbs of lead to sink then you are Doing It Wrong. You need to be in a >>drysuit, a wetsuit is not an option here. And if you are in a drysuit you >>have 2 ways of getting yourself to the surface. If you need a little >>extra buoyancy you drop your cannister light and your tools. >> >>And while George knows of what he speaks, he is stating common sense, not >>dogma. If you think a little about the situation I think you will agree. >> >> Jim >> >>Sender: RLucas1013@ao*.co* Date: 3/15/99 5:02 PM >> >>>I thought the idea of a weight belt was to drop in an emergency. George >has >>>stated diving with double alum tanks and a wet suit a weight belt is the >>way >>>to go in open ocean, so in case of an emergency drop the weight. How do >you >>>drop a V weight in an emergency with double alum tanks and a wet suit if >>that >>>is what you were referring to? In any event how do you drop a V weight in >>an >>>emergency in open water? >>>BOB >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Learn About Trimix at http://www.cisatlantic.com/trimix/trimix.html >> >> >>-- >>Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. >>Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. >>-- >>Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. >>Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. >> >----------------------------------------------- >Kevin Connell <kevin@nw*.co*> > >NW Labor Systems, Inc >http://www.nwls.com > >And I suppose you want a user interface with >that..... >----------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------------------------- Kevin Connell <kevin@nw*.co*> NW Labor Systems, Inc http://www.nwls.com And I suppose you want a user interface with that..... ----------------------------------------------- -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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