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To: Richard
To: Pyle <deepreef@bi*.bi*.ha*.or*>
Subject: Re: Liquid breathing
From: scot@bt*.co* (Scot Anderson)
Cc: techdiver@opal.com
Date: Mon, 05 Dec 1994 16:55:12 -0500
Just a note, I heard one of the developers do a talk on this at one of
the local dive things.  Specifically, it was called "Dive Philadelphia" and
was organized by one of the list-members here.  Her name is Jolie, her
address is jolieb@gr*.ci*.up*.ed*.

Anyway, this guy (the speaker) worked on the stuff, consulted on the movie,
and told us all about it.  It's mostly for use with premature babies, as
lung tissue is many times not mature enough to perform the gas
exchange necessary to sustain life.  It was also used for treatment
of disease.  

Apparently the stuff has a very high vapor pressure, and is so completely
inert that one can apparently drink it without bad effect.  And it's ability
to solvate and carry gasses is much higher than water.  He compared
it to "liquid teflon"  -  

Incidentally, the rat thing from the Abyss was apparently real.  The
researcher was not allowed to do it to the rat, as SPCA was not particularly
impressed with the protocol, but the film guys did it to a rat in a
an hotel room, no less.  Like, seriously, the rat thing was not a special
effect or anything.

More interesting tid-bits - apparently folks have tried the liquid 
breathing thing back quite a ways - even with saline solutions.  
The bottom line, the entire thing is real viable, and folks 
apparently can live for extended periods of time on the stuff.  

it does make a quick trip to McDonalds a little sticky, though.




>On Mon, 5 Dec 1994, ANTHONY APPLEYARD wrote:
>
>>   (5) When he got back into air afterwards, he took his helmet off while it
>> was flooded, and the liquid in his helmet, and the liquid which he expelled
>> from his lungs, went on the floor. I guess that (a) this liquid would be
>> expensive, and (b) where thus spilt it would make a dangerously slippery
mess:
>> surely there would be a way for him to fill his helmet with air and get all
>> the liquid back into the set's storage tank while the helmet is still sealed?
>
>I think, given the circumstances in the film under which he removed his
>helmet, he can be excused for this one.....
>
>>   (6) With his pharynx full of the liquid, he would find it hard to avoid
>> swallowing quantities of it, thus (a) expending it, and (b) on a long dive,
>> inconveniently lubricating his intestines, as his gut wouldn't absorb it. (I
>> was vaguely thinking here of a stomach tube running from a water tank in the
>> set; this would solve any thirsty temptations to swallow the breathing
liquid,
>> also might mechanically prevent him from swallowing the breathing liquid.)
>
>Never thought of that before...interesting problem.
>
>>   ---------------------------------
>>   PS. Sorry to use bandwidth on a non-diving matter, but: I can't find
info re
>> this in any of the proper places: how to get Word Perfect 5.1 for DOS, when
>> displaying text, to use my PC's 132*43 character text screen mode instead of
>> the usual 80*25 character text screen mode?
>
>Shift-F1, then follow the menus.  Not all computers can display at that
>resoulution.
>
>Aloha,
>Rich
>
>deepreef@bi*.bi*.ha*.or*
>
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