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From: "Mullard, Geoff (Ex AS09)" <GMullard@ho*.co*.au*>
To: Ranjit Chagar <ranjit@cs*.co*>,
     "'Techdiver@aquanaut.com'"
     ,
     "'Cam Banks'"
Subject: RE: subtle Narcosis
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 10:42:53 +1000
I've noticed the same things occur, usually on Bundaberg Rum and Coke,
you're right.
It's probably the Coke !!! I'll put in more Rum.

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Ranjit Chagar [SMTP:ranjit@cs*.co*]
> Sent:	Friday, March 12, 1999 9:17 AM
> To:	'Techdiver@aquanaut.com'; 'Cam Banks'
> Subject:	RE: subtle Narcosis
> 
> Hmmmm, Interesting,
> 
> I find I have the same problem without even going diving. After 
> drinking a bottle of Jack Daniel's and Coke, I find I am missing
> all sorts of things (including time). Perhaps I'm suffering from
> narcosis onset from the CO2 in the coke? I've repeated this
> experiment on a number of occasions, with a varying number
> of people present, and in all of the cases, I've had the same
> problem. 
> 
> Is there anyone who can comment on this. I'm a member of 
> AA with over 15 years drinking experience, started
> on beer, and now on the hard stuff. 
> 
> Ranjit
> 
> PS, apologies to those on the RB list who gave me this idea
> for a reply!
> 
> >----------
> >From: 	Cam Banks[SMTP:cam@ca*.co*]
> >Sent: 	Friday, March 12, 1999 1:57 AM
> >To: 	Techdiver@aquanaut.com
> >Subject: 	subtle Narcosis
> >
> >Hi.  I'm new to the techdiver list; I'd like to get some feedback to see
> >if others have noticed relatively subtle nitrogen narcosis.
> >
> >It's only recently that I realize how pervasive narcosis is.  For
> >example, I notice after diving 2-3 dives (well within rec limits), that
> >I tend to miss the right exit on the way home or make other similar such
> >minor mental errors for the next 8 hours or so.
> >
> >I used to write this off as just "being tired", but I now think it is
> >residual narcosis.  Interestingly, I've never really felt "narced" even
> >on the couple of dives where I've exceeded 150 feet depth.  
> >
> >Also, more anecdotal evidence; when I was on a night dive in Cozumel,
> >near the end I was starting to feel a little squirrelly.  Couldn't
> >figure it out -- I'm not tense, not scared of night dives, generally a
> >very relaxed diver.  My current theory is that there was just too much
> >information to process near the end of the dive and my narced brain was
> >feeling a bit overwhelmed -- I really had to concentrate not to tense
> >up.  It was a long dive, and near the end there was a lot going on
> >around me, and it was hard to decide what to focus on.
> >
> >Anyway, that's my theory: sub-clinical N2 narcosis impairs the higher
> >functions even at depths/times not thought of as narc territory (50 ft
> >for 50 min, say), and lingers long after the day's diving has ended. 
> >I'm going to try Nitrox and see if I notice a difference.
> >
> >I'd have to say I'm surprised by the insidiousness of this narcosis, if
> >that's what it is; I'm an experienced diver with over 100 dives and a
> >PADI DM rating, but I never really noticed the level of impairment
> >before.  Makes you think about how dangerous "deep air" dives (of which
> >I've made a few) really must be.
> >
> >Cam
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