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Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 19:36:30 -0500
To: Kent Lind <Kent.Lind@no*.go*>, techdiver@aquanaut.com
From: Michel Therrien <m.therrien@ne*.qc*.ca*>
Subject: Re: Break-away for pressure gauge?
The easy rule is that you give whatever you are breathing.. If this is a
stage, you give the stage.  

So, the need for a breakaway is theoritical.  However, I do believe that in
certain instances, (reg. switch for example), the theory may not work.  

In this case, I am not looking for something to hopefully slide.   I just
want to give it (or take it) right away.  The attachment for the primary
regulator to the chest D-ring need not to be very strong.  In fact, quite
often (especially for short trips), I don't attach the regulator at all
(note that after seeing a picture of me breathing from my stage while
scootering, I may change this practice--the regulator slipped on my right
arm, away from its normal position).  A thin o-ring is easy to break and
strong enough for its purpose.

The o-ring that I was taking about (and I'm sure it the same thing you are
talking about) allows the snap to slide on the hose (at least most of the
times ;-).  My point is just that there is no reason to put something that
cannot be broken easilly.

Michel


At 03:47 PM 2/25/99 -0500, Kent Lind wrote:
>
>Michel Therrien wrote:
>> 
>> For the regulator, I don't use a tank o-ring... it is too strong.  I
>> believe, it is harder to break the o-ring by pushing away from the shoulder
>> than by pulling from the hip.
>> 
>> As Dave mentionned, a thinner o-ring is better (I just failed to use the
>> word preferable here ;-)
>> 
>> What I use is a o-ring similar (the same) to what we find on SL4 Underwater
>> Kinetics light.  The O-ring is thinner and can break more easilly if
required.
>
>OK, the only place you should ever have your long hose clipped off is to your
>chest d-ring when you are breathing a stage or deco bottle.
>
>The reason for making a breakaway clip on a long hose is so that if an out
of 
>air diver needs gas in a hurry, they can just grab the long hose and pull it
>away
>even if it is clipped off.  Alternatively, they could just take the stage reg
>out of your 
>mouth and you could go to the backup around your neck.  
>
>In practice, I've found that you really don't need a breakaway clip if you
can
>make
>a sliding clip.  If you use David Shimell's method and you use a large enough
>diameter o-ring you will end up with a bolt snap on your long hose that can
>slide
>up and down.  What happens then is that if an out of air diver grabs your
>clipped
>off long hose reg and pulls is that the hose will pull through the o-ring and
>they 
>will get sufficient hose to begin breathing.  Once you've stabilized the
>situation
>you can get the hose unclipped and get everything sorted out.  You can also
>reach down and pull this reg up to your face without unclipping it if you
ever 
>needed it.
>
>What I did is go to the local Ace Hardware store and buy a large selection
of 
>different size o-rings.  They are cheap.  Then I experimented with them to
find
>the
>best size for making a sliding clip that can still be broken away if
absolutely 
>necessary.
>
>-Kent-
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