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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 08:22:14 -0500
From: Jeff Bentley <jeffbentley@mi*.co*>
To: Paolo Velcich <pavel@ma*.na*.it*>
CC: Tech Diver <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: Re: Nobel prize winner dies at Wakulla
yawn

There seems to be a great number of potential "marriage counselors" on this
list... I think you should bail on diving and listen to Dr Laura more often...

Jeff


Paolo Velcich wrote:

> <Reposting private email is a sin....> I did it once for a mistake and
already apologize to
> the mailer, I was very sorry with that. But gratuite offensive postings
deserves to be
> exposed to show your real attitude. I alwais expose my opinion in public and
I talke my
> responsibilities for this.
> I think I never offended anybody here and already declared i had no title to
take part in
> the fight.
> What I did was to analize and point out a situation which is only producing
wastes to the
> entire community and this is a general comportamental issue, not a specific
or localized
> fight.
> But I can't continue to explain you things if you're - evidently - unable to
listen.
>
> I'll keep visiting and appreciating Florida and the USA despite of people
like you.
>
> Bye
>
> Paolo
>
> Jeff Bentley wrote:
>
> > Reposting private email is a sin....
> >
> > I now give you a public salute..
> >
> > Sit down and shut the f* up,
> > Jeff
> >
> > Paolo Velcich wrote:
> >
> > > Thank you for your exquisite style, really a gentleman...:-)
> > >
> > > Jeff Bentley wrote:
> > >
> > > > Dude,
> > > > You are in fucking italy... what the hell do you know about
> > > > cave diving in backwater florida?
> > > >
> > > > shut up and sit down,
> > > > Jeff
> > > >
> > > > Paolo Velcich wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Thanks Rick,
> > > > > you found the right words to say it.
> > > > > I totally agree with you and I'm sure all open minded people do.
> > > > >
> > > > > Paolo
> > > > >
> > > > > Rick Fincher wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > yes Rick, this death is our fault... <snip>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > No Trout, it's not your fault. Never said it was. But this
unproductive pissing
> > > > > > match you guys have going is not helping anybody.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Let me give you two possible courses of action that you could have
taken when
> > > > > > you found out about Wak 2.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1. You could have said, "Hey guys we've been diving here for a long
time and any
> > > > > > info you need in planning like, finding out about existing lines,
existing maps
> > > > > > etc. we'll be happy to help out. We've also got a killer scooter
design if you
> > > > > > guys want to try it."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2. If you saw that they were screwed up you could have backed off
and let them
> > > > > > do it their way without comment. The end results would have showed
the truth.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If you guys really believe in doing this for scientific reasons
then it would be
> > > > > > a cooperative effort, not the ego contest and turf battle it has
degenerated
> > > > > > into.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You guys do some really great diving and have developed some really
great
> > > > > > techniques that have helped the whole sport.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Why taint that legacy by appearing to be the guy standing there
with a bloody
> > > > > > knife in your hand after backstabbing these other guys and saying,
"See I told
> > > > > > you they couldn't do it".
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You'd be better off to be able to say when all was said and done,
"We tried to
> > > > > > give them a helping hand but they still couldn't pull it off".
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I could respect that. I can't respect they way you guys have
behaved to date.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Rick
> > > > > > --
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> >
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