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From: <Gilldiver@ao*.co*>
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 16:52:52 EST
To: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Ship wreck laws in CA
In reply to an inquirery as to what California's position on shipwrecks was,
Peter Pelkofer one of the States Attorneys (and the one on the Brother
Jonathan case) states that:

<<California's definition of a historic vessel is contained in Public
Resources Code Section 6313 (b)(c) and is longer than I care to type here.  It
generally covers submerged objects  which have historical significance and
that significance is determined by reference to standards set up for inclusion
in the National Register. 

There is no time requirement.  It could have sunk yesterday and be significant
or 500 years ago and not be significant.  There is a presumption that objects
that have remained under water for 50 years are significant, but that
presumption is subject to proof any time it is questioned.>>

In reply to a question on the status of the USS Moony, a WWI destroyer sunk as
a film prop off of LA Harbor, Mr Pelkofer states that:

<<As to the USS Mooney, so far as the State is concerned it and all former
military vessels belong to the US. unless they say they don't.   The State's
only interest in them would be if someone wanted to salvage them and in doing
so came within our permit process because they were in state waters.  The
concern then would be environmental not archaeological.   I can't tell you who
own the Mooney.  Based on your facts, if the Navy sold it (and had authority
to sell) then movie studio was the owner when it was sunk, it belongs to the
studio, unless the studio abandoned it.  Is it historic, possibly, does the
State claim it .  NO>>

Now for my own opinion. 

The statement that wrecks are determined on a case by case basis is all well
and good, but if the process of determination is not codified so that the
State has to go through a justification process the State will always make the
decision by not making a decision. The State will say that because it is older
then 50 years it must be historic so it is ours. If fact Mr Pelkofer stated 

""There is a presumption that objects that have remained under water for 50
years are significant, but that presumption is subject to proof any time it is
questioned""

Anyone care to be the test case?

As for the Moony, anyone have the time and the money to test that case?

 I didn't think so.

Peter Johnson
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