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> >well jason...if >>virtually everyone you known who dives mix has been bent >then I would reasses the way you dive with it. >we can all get bent on any dive, the objectective is to limit the risk. >As for the generalistaion on our US divers understating the incidence of >DCI, can you OR anyone on this list please supply stats to back this up. >I would say ALL OF US deny DCI in some way....my only comment was that I >have not had t make the pilgimage to the chamber (touch wood). IMNSHO, >let's hope NONE of us have to. Though I doubt that noone on this list will >be bent in the next few months. >To test this out, why not all those who have suffered DCI plse send me a >seven line posting & I will do a quick analysis. >DCI SURVEY >-------------------- > >Have you suffered DCI? Yes >Were you treated in a chamber? No >Did you tell someone?. Yes >What was the depth duration? 79msw, 15 min BT, 118 min runtime >What Tables? DRX set to 130 >What Mixes? TMX 13/38, air, O2 >What is your nationality? Australian What you *said* was that you had been lucky so far. Not that you had been bent and not gone to a chamber. A few months ago I crashed my car and wrote it off. Are you saying that becuase the police weren't called and there is no official report, that it didn't happen? Is "I've been lucky so far with driving" a fair comment? I don't deny DCI in ANY WAY. So "ALL OF US deny DCI in some way" is not correct. I haven't got any stats on how many people of different races go home and don't tell anyone they have been hurt, but if you are interested in the culture of the American diver then reading Dr. Jennifer Hunt's papers will be most enlightening. (Montclair State University) This culture is of concern to most divers, as the American training organisations have a very strong influence on diving throughout the world, particularly in Australia where the only Ozzie training organisation (FAUI) which taught decompression diving right from ab initio training has been swamped by the PADI NAUI SSI IANTD ANDI NASDS flood so much so that most Ozzie divers not only don't know how to do deco diving, but refuse to believe that it has ever been taught. The fact that Queensland has adopted the American limits rather than the Australian ones should be enough to show what a strong influence they have on us. If I sound mad that's because I am. You remember the fiasco where you recommended I dive on the OzPlay boat. I had a FAUI Scuba diver cert, I'd been trained to do dives to any depth that I could tolerate, and how to recoginise when I had reached my personal air diving limits. And this clown won't take me out to do a dive in 50 m becuase I don't have a PADDY Deep card!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! American, fear of litigation driven, training has already affected my diving directly. If anyone is interested I can expand on this point *greatly* but I've raved enough for one post. PS, I conducted a survey before, without much of a response. One very interesting thing was a bare faced *lie* from someone connected with a technical training organisation that dramatically understated DCI hits. He claimed *ZERO* DCI amoungst his group of divers when I know for a fact he has been hit himself! and accompanied a diver to the chamber. Cheers Jason O-)
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