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Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 16:15:54 +0100
From: Ingemar Lundgren <ingemar.lundgren@mb*.sw*.se*>
To: Kent Lind <klind@al*.ne*>
CC: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: Wreck diving deco practises
This is how we do it to but the new Jersey messersmiths knows best as always.

Kent Lind wrote:

> Ingemar wrote:
>
> > Thae way i deco when diving wrecks is this:  First of all we never dive on
> > the anchor line because it can pull off. We have always got a separate line
> > to the wreck that we do the descent/ascent from. This way we can never lose
> > the line.  This line is placed at a spot where it is easy to locate for
> > example on the port side of the bridge. This way it is nearly impossible to
> > fail in locating it. In fact we have made thousands of trimix wreck dives in
> > our dive group and no one has ever missed the line   If the vis is very bad
> > or the wreck so broken up that it is hard to navigate on we use navigational
> > guide line.
>
> This is similar to what I do in Alaska.  On the wrecks that we dive,
frequently
> we have installed permanent mooring buoys for the season.  Usually we just use
> leaded crab pot line which is tied into the wreck with a bridle of stainless
> steel cable and a shackle so that the rope doesn't chafe against the wreck. 
For
> a float I just use a crab put buoy so it is disguised.  There are thousands of
> crab pots around SE Alaska so no one notices a stray buoy.  I'm always worried
> that if sportfishermen learn that it's a mooring buoy they'll tie off and
strip
> the wrecks of all the big ling cod and other fish.  All of the wrecks around
> here are on steep slopes (these are deep glacial fjords) and we always try to
> set the mooring buoy as high up on the wreck as possible on something secure
> like a bullard or rail.  That way no descent is ever required to get back to
> the line and it's hard for even someone new to get lost...just find the
highest
> spot on the wreck and there the line is.  Since the wrecks are on slopes,
every
> thing angles upwards and you have to be brain dead to get lost, even in horrid
> vis.  If I'm diving with divers who haven't been there before I usually leave
a
> strobe on
> the line as a marker.  With the regular buddies we don't usually bother.
>
> Mostly we dive off small boats and just tie right into the mooring line so no
> anchor is set.  Usually we have two boats on site, one tied into the mooring
> buoy and the other tied off on the stern of the first boat so a chase boat is
> always ready.  This isn't the North Atlantic, these are relatively narrow
fjords
> and the wrecks are mostly within a few hundred meters of shore so big boats
are
> not necessary.  There's rarely any place we ever dive where the shore isn't
more
> than a 20 minute swim away.
>
> > If  we cant find the line (which has never happened) we inflate the bag
> > approaching the first stop and lock the reel. Note that we do not tie off
> > the reel line to the wreck.  When the bag hits the surface it will be in the
> > area directly over  the wreck and the crew will spot it.  If the boat is
> > anchored the crew will simply put a buoy on the anchor line and drop it and
> > then start to chase the lift bag.  The Halcyon surf mat is thin, long  and
> > in bright colors so it can bee spotted at a distance.
>
> Same procedure.  I've practiced floating deco but have never been forced to do
> it.  It's more a matter of being prepared in case we mis-time the currents and
> get blown off the line or the wreck.  I carry a diverite primary reel with #36
> knotted line on it and I have one of the OMS 60lb SMB sausages that is stuffed
> in the halcyon backplate pad.  Works well.  I keep another lift bag clipped
off
> to a rear crotch strap d-ring and I keep a cave diving  safety spool in my
> drysuit pocket so if I have an absolute cluster and  lose my first lift bag
and
> reel I have a backup spool with about 100' of line on it and a backup reel.  I
> also usually have two 1" webbing jon lines about 8' long each which will give
me
> still another backup line to hang off of.  The bridle on the lift bag hangs
down
> about 3' so hanging on the jon lines on the lift bag will give me at least 20'
> and 10'
> stops.  I just bought a roll of 1" tubular webbing from the local climbing
shop
> and cut it into lengths and then brought the pieces to a local sail maker to
> have the ends stitched back into loops so they look like a dog
> leash but with loops on each end.  For about $35 I made jon lines for all my
> dive buddies at once.  I use a climbing carabiner to clip it off to my chest
> d-ring on a anchor line hang and when not in use the jon
> lines are folded up, secured with a heavy rubber band and ride in my drysuit
> pocket.
>
> > Locating the line will bee much easier when the line is carefully placed on
> > a easy to find spot on the wreck and it is permanently placed there rather
> > than a randomly placed anchor line that can end up pretty much anywhere.
> > No need to have 150m 1/8 inch line on a must bee pretty huge reel and no
> > need to have a 150-200ib lift bag. This means a cleaner configuration. The
> > surfmat is also closed circuit so it can not sink back on you as a
> > traditional lift bag can.
>
> Yes, we used to dive off the anchor but rather than ending up with a randomly
> placed anchor, it would usually end up on the bottom of the wreck some place
> which sometimes meant descending to the deepest part of the wreck to get back
to
> the anchor.  Not an ideal situation, especially if you want to turn the dive
at
> a higher part of the wreck and are forced to descent t get back.  I was never
> really worried about the anchor pulling.  My small
> boat has a lightweight anchor and I usually would wrap the anchor into the
wreck
> or wedge it in someplace very secure before starting the dive.  But that meant
> you had to unwrap it or unhook it at the end of the last dive or you end up
> leaving tying it off on a buoy and getting it back on another day.
>
> Kent Lind
> Juneau, Alaska
> klind@al*.ne*
>
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