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From: "Jess Armantrout" <armantrout@wo*.at*.ne*>
To: "Jim Cobb" <cobber@ci*.co*>, <Rubrifolia@ao*.co*>,
     "Tech Diver"
Subject: Re: Setting my EGO aside
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1999 21:26:43 -0600
Even at my worst, I am afraid i would not have been able to compete with
most of that crowd.

Trout

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*>
To: Jess Armantrout <armantrout@wo*.at*.ne*>; Rubrifolia@ao*.co*
<Rubrifolia@ao*.co*>; Tech Diver <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Date: Friday, January 01, 1999 8:09 PM
Subject: Re: Setting my EGO aside


>Oh, come on, trout, what about your stroke days?
>
>Maaan, you be like bragging "I ain't never had no crabs" while you be in
>a ho-house. Be real, man...
>
> Jim
>
>Sender: Jess Armantrout  Date: 1/1/99 4:47 PM
>
>>I gues we just don't have as many cf's to brag about.  Oh darn.
>>
>>Trout
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Rubrifolia@ao*.co* <Rubrifolia@ao*.co*>
>>To: cobber@ci*.co* <cobber@ci*.co*>; captjt@mi*.co*
>><captjt@mi*.co*>; techdiver@aquanaut.com <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
>>Cc: vbtech@ci*.co* <vbtech@ci*.co*>
>>Date: Friday, January 01, 1999 1:47 PM
>>Subject: Re: Setting my EGO aside
>>
>>
>>>In a message dated 1/1/99 11:30:49 AM Eastern Standard Time,
>>>cobber@ci*.co* writes:
>>>
>>><< it is truly rare when a diver spends the time to describe a
clusterfuck
>>> situation, esp. if there were no witnesses.
>>>  >>
>>>
>>>
>>>And here is the true advantage to being a pizza stained north east wreck
>>>diver....the boats on which I travel and have traveled all treat their
>>diving
>>>as an evolving process. None are so hugely caught up in their egos and
>>their
>>>places in the dive world that they cannot admit to mistakes.....Rather
the
>>>trips to and from the site are often taken up with the 'oh-shits' and how
>>now
>>>in the perfect light of surface visibility the event or events could have
>>been
>>>improved upon.....these stories arent machismo, big man doing super cool
>>Bruce
>>>Willis imitation, but rather, oh man, I fucked up.....
>>>
>>>In fact, early on I realized that hanging out around these discussions
was
>>the
>>>best learning tool I could access, next to continually going
diving.....and
>>>that I could also enter into this pool and each and every one of my
>>'episodes'
>>>could also be dissected up on deck.....not with rancor or "you
dunderhead"
>>>(altho in my case that tends to apply, what could I have beeen thinking
>>of???
>>><g>)....but with a healthy awareness that this too could happen to you or
>>that
>>>your time will come for some sort of meeting with Murphy and his downhill
>>>train.  Even if it will not be your particular circumstance, often the
sets
>>of
>>>skills used as coping mechanisms can be applied. Those stories get stored
>>>somewhere in the brainpan and they can instantly replay when needed.
>>>
>>>Poor old Wrolf's episode this spring is a good example.  I've never had a
>>run
>>>away inflator incident and only fairly briefly thought about it.  Out
came
>>>many stories of run amuck suits and inflators and the different sets of
>>>circumstances which caused the blow-ups and then the differing responses
>>and
>>>outcomes....all useful stuff....
>>>
>>>Suicide clips for example.  We used to all use them.  Years ago now, a
>>diver
>>>was deep inside the Doria when one of the clips wrapped round a cable....
>>in
>>>that total darkness the diver had to take off his rig, cut himself clear
>>and
>>>re-don...and this was before mix....that story went round immediately and
>>we
>>>all fairly quickly remedied our set-ups....Every time a diver would show
up
>>on
>>>that boat with those clips, that story would be trotted out.
>>>
>>>This fall a diver had a series of judgement errors almost catch up to her
>>and
>>>in the round robin discussion group one diver said that he would
absolutely
>>>never do this or that on this or that particular setup....but then was
>>backed
>>>up in the reminder that everyone used to do those things off of those set
>>>ups....it was just over the evolutionary process of going diving, seeing
>>and
>>>making mistakes that the diver came to those Mount Olympian judgements...
>>>
>>>And I can hear the KP'ers now, yes, I do represent the single most
>>insidious
>>>force in diving today, personal choice....the personal choice to go
diving
>>as
>>>well and as often as I can amidst a group of like minded individuals.....
>>>
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