RE: Bruic quitting USDCT

Mike, we made this decision to avoid this four years ago in Branford
when we met with these guys the first time, realized they are
incompetent, and got lied to the first time.

The reality is that Cis Lunar has put a lot of effort into trying to
electrify and polish a door knob - it "works" according to your
definition of work, and when it does not, you find out in Heaven or
Hell. I do not consider something this complex or fragile a good cave
diving tool. I do not consider Wakulla a good place to promote or market
a rebreather , expecially with "volunteers" diving it. You have no idea
whether it is working correctly or not, and finding out on a long
exposure by dying is not the optimal way to go. As Gavin says about any
of the best rebreathers, "anyone can get lucky for a while". Wait until
the water gets dark and they have to monitor that thing while having bad
vis. Somebody is going to die. 

I don't rely on luck , and my track record proves it. My track record
also supports my very sound decison to have nothing to do with Stone or
his program.

You know me, you may not like my bluntness, but you have never seen me
be wrong about this kind of thing. You also know Bill Gavin, and you
know what he does for a living. He himself has a MK16 and and EX 19, and
a guess what - a Halcyon. The Halcyon got Gavin so excited, he came back
to cave diving and guess what he uses? Guess who our new engineer for RB
is? What does he know that you guys do not ( or have nto been told, or
are not privy to)? 

I think it is a real crime that Stone is holding out the hope of diving
Wakulla or being a big hero to get people to dive his rebreather, his
other toys, and his play soldier methods. Anyone who is willing to
follow our simple rules can dive with the WKPP, and if they can indeed
cut it in Leon Sinks and work as a team member, they can dive Wakulla -
and we dive Wakulla long term, and we are always working in new ( to
WKPP) players. Everyone on the USDCT has been invited at one time or
another to dive with us, but there are obviously those who know they can
not cut it and will not,or will not conduct themselves in a fashion that
would allow us to retain them.

Bruic, you know what you need to do , and you all know I hold no
grudges. Annette Long could dive with us if she wanted to actually help.
I do not care about your T-shirts with my name on them, or anything else
you have done or said about me or us. I respect your decision to blow
off all this work you have done and do the right thing , just like I
respect that decision by Mark Long, Tom Morris, Wes Skiles, Lamar Hires,
Dell Motes, Larry Green, Randy McGuirre, Bob Mc Guirre, and even Jim
Lockwood, and the rest of the cave diving community that are
conspicuously absent from Stone's phony "mapping" project. 

All Stone has are desparate wannabees and new cave divers - an extemely
volatile and dangerous mix. 

For Stone to tell these wannabees and misfits that they can compete with
me is ridiculous, unless they have spent the last ten years doing the
two per day workouts that I do, and doing the hundreds of long range
deep mixed gas cave exploration dives that I have done, or have the
intimate knowledge of gear and techniques and emergency proceedures that
I do, or can make the kind of informed decisons on the fly under extreme
situations that I make when we pull of these dives each and every time,
and that my teammates rely on me to make, and make perfectly and are all
doing thtemselves aznd learning to do - it can not be done by the
unitiated or casual player.

Mike, I feel badly for you since I hear you have busted your ass. You
know where the action is, and so does the whole community - our door is
always wide open.

By the way, 22 days and NOTHING DONE by these guys. No mapping, no
nothing. All they have determined is that when they surveyed the
begining of the cave last time on AIR, they screwed up, just like they
screwed up at Sally Ward, and they will continue to do nothing other
than broadcast lies, exaggerations , and promos.

We ignored their survey after being tipped off by Skiles, and corrected
the conduit. Our survey matches with the surface features, but we did
not bother with the spring tunnels other than to correct the beginning
of C, and the location of the D and F entrances when we found and
connnected L, E, and the H,I,K combinations. They will never see any of
the conduit part of the cave that we are working. In fact, I can not
believe they have not been exposed as baloney and kicked out by now.
Hopefully the rain will ruin the fun and they will give up before anyone
gets killed .

We could be in there producing some real results - they need to get out,
and the State needs to recognize this before it gets any worse.


mike bruic wrote:
> 
> George----This is my official resignation from the usdct. While I may
> not agree with you on some of the things you do....I do however agree
> on "your" concept of "safety", and "team training".  During my
> exposure to W-2 as a so-called "lead diver", I have witnessed
> nether/or. What I have witnessed though, is a team of diver's that are
> to scared to (or have the balls to) stand-up and say, "hey", one of
> our lead divers does not belong here, this is way over his head, or
> acknowledge the "FACT" that  he repeatedly violates every safety
> procedure set forth by "our" team, and "LIES STRAIGHT TO STONES FACE,
> AND EVERY OTHER DIVER ABOUT IT". The worst part is, Stone buy's it
> because he can't afford to lose a "want-to-be lead diver", and
> therefore, over-rules "his" so-called safety committee(s). (and in the
> processes, losses lead diver(s)).
> 
> Stone, you take Jason in the cave "yourself", then come back and tell
> us about it. After that, Wakulla is "your oyster", only if "you"
> continue to dive with "Jason", but then, remember "Friday the 13th".
> 
> I, "DO NOT, AND WILL NOT" be part of the unsafe standards that Stone
> prorogates, nor will I be associated with such a team as the usdct
> that will willingly standby, and let some idiot kill himself, our
> somebody else in the process, just so "THEY CAN DIVE AT WAKULLA". I am
> sorry I ever even got started with such a "goat roping" as the usdct.
> The divers on the team are great, the Cis Lunar has preformed
> beautifully......but Stone knows #^^^&)@!^%#@  about cave diving", and
> proves it every day.
> 
> Mike Bruic
> NSS/CDS inst... #308
> Madison Blue Spring
>


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