Bill, either that Cis Liar does not correctly record depth, or they were
not in D Tunnel. This is like the ancient deco program - real fine
stuff. Obviosly these guys are putting a 100 minute scale on a 50 minute
sequence, as it does not take 20 minutes to travel 400 feet into the
cave, and then it does not take the time to reach the individual spots
of depth that I recognized from my many dives in that place.

Then for any profile they chose to go with  ( the real one or the fake
one), the deco is not only completely wrong, it is triple what we would
do for the dive. 

I would suggest that Stone could do a beter job of marketing the Cis
Liar if he just cut the price - lying about it is making it worse. So
far, we see it does not record depth or time properly, it makes deco
longer than it should be, it has a ridiculous ppo2 pattern ( very risky
, especially late in the dive), and it potential buyers are all geeks
anyway and have no intention of actually diving with them.

There also exists the distinct possibility that Stone and co are so far
out of the minastream of current thinking on oxygen and deco that this
all seems great to him. I find it embarrassing, given what I know about
the cave and about decompression, which is a hell of a lot more than
Stone either knows or will ever find out.

I can't wait unitl he pisses one of these guys off like he did at Huatla
snd they come out howling wtih the truth. Who will be next ( Even Jim
Lockwood quit for safety reasons - too funny).


Bill Mee wrote:
> 
> Bill,
> 
> For those of us who have been to D tunnel many times it came as a huge
> surprise to find that it takes over 50 minutes to get to the socalled
> "Scooter breakdown room". (The profile is symmetric around the 50
> minute point, so I guess this is where they turned the dive) We are
> talking 2400 ft here to the end of the line in D. The disclosure of
> the MK5 Rig021-121898 download profile further compounds the mystery.
> (see http://www.wakulla2.org/Updates/dec18_graphs.htm).
> 
> Apparently the MK5 is programmed to "lie" since it reports a max depth
> of 290ft and we know that the depth just prior to the scooter
> breakdown room is over 300 ft. on the ceiling. As a matter of fact, I
> recall a reading of 305 ft on my depth gauge. Do you know where your
> dive team actually was?
> 
> Why does it take nearly 20 minutes to get into the cave? What were
> your boys doing, crawling? Perhaps you can get your spokesperson,
> Richie (Mike McCurry) Pyle to explain to us what clever nuance in the
> MK5 software caused the oxygen to spike to nearly 1.9 ppo2, 7 to 10
> ten minutes in to the dive. Then after he has finished telling us why
> this is intentional and a good idea, he can tell us why it is a better
> idea to spike the oxygen back up to almost the same levels after 95
> minutes. This of course, when, according to the download log, the
> divers were at nearly 160 ft. There must be a very compelling reason
> for this or maybe the CL was just "lying" again when it reported these
> values.
> 
> Where is the great deco advantage to the MK5, that Richie has been
> telling us all about, when you are doing over 500 minutes of deco for
> what we would consider at most a 60 minute bottom time? I am sure you
> remember Richie’s two legendary, swear on a stack of bibles, 60
> minute bottom time dives to 300 ft in one day. That means Richie did
> 1000 minutes of deco according to this program. Oh, wait a minute.
> That was a Mk IV and it took place in another time zone. That explains
> the difference. Whew! That must have been one long day.
> 
> Bill, if this problem persists, I think the solution would be to
> incorporate a lie detection algorithm in to the Cis.
> 
> BTW, what has become of Jim King?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Bill

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