Kevin, When you can garantee me that air stations in Canada ( Not all) will stop pumping contaminated air into O2 clean tanks of divers from Washington State and jeapardizing partial pressure fill station operators I will get off My damn " hi-horse". Most nitrox divers have to take the dive shops word they are doing fills properly and do not the detailed knowledge of compressor systems and hyperfiltration. I have personally seen air stations up there pump regular air into O2 cleaned tanks, anything to make a buck. ---- David Central Washington Scuba Center www.cwscuba.com ---- -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Flynn <tpcy@na*.ar*.co*> To: Jamie E. Thiesfeld <jamie@cw*.co*> Cc: techdiver <techdiver@aquanaut.com> Date: Tuesday, December 08, 1998 8:09 AM Subject: Re: Fw: Nitrox Stick >What is with people like your self with these elitist notions. It sure is funny >how one can sit and throw stones at a concept that has been out for several >years. The Nitrox stick concept was introduced to the masses to get nitrox out >of the closet and out to divers. The thing works, it is a no-brainer. Yes it >allows one to mix up to 40% quickly and easily. In the "dark ages", places >states llike Washington could not get Nitrox easily, and had to come up to >British Columbia to dive it. In fact a certain chain of dive stores in the >Seattle area had groups of instructors come up, just to dive on the gas. The >dive store chain owner would have fired them if he found out that they were >diving on the "Black Gas". The simple method of mixing nitrox, using the >"Nitrox Stick" concept allowed "Joe dive shop owner" an accurate way to mix >safely. As far as o2 verses non-o2 clean tanks, who cares. If one wants to >maintain dedicated tanks so be it. Not everybody subscribes to the "Jamie E. >Thiesfeld " method of diving. What this list needs to do is lighten up, and >withhold the urge to slam everyone who doesn't do it the way they do it. The >concept works, get over it. In regards to mixing with an oil lubed compressor, >we use synthetic oil for mixes 40% and under, mixes 40% and higher, partial >blending. As to the argument of what the compressor manufactures would like, >who cares. Nitrox would not be as big if operators did not push the rules to >blend the stuff, as in pre- synthetic days, using Halo Carbon oil. Now synthetic >is everywhere, which is good for the industry. Now the masses can enjoy, even >the "disciples of the lame stickers". End of sermon. >Regards:. > >Jamie E. Thiesfeld wrote: > >> Somebody out there correct me if I'm wrong but my understanding of this >> thing from the literature I read is this device pre-blends up to 40% nitrox >> on the intake of an oil lubed compressor (continuous blend). If your >> filtration system is not producing OCA and your using this thing I would say >> that your contaminating O2 clean tanks being filled with this system, unless >> you are a disciple of the lame stickers that let you chose between >> "pre-blend" or " O2 clean". Also I bet most compressor manufacturers will >> not approve of this system being used with their equipment. >> If memory serves me correctly these things are made by a dive store in >> Spokane but are marketed now by GMC. >> >> David >> Central Washington Scuba Center >> www.cwscuba.com >> >> --Original Message----- >> >From: Brett Taylor <info@ca*.co*> >> >Date: Thursday, December 03, 1998 8:33 PM >> >Subject: Re: Nitrox Stick >> > >> > >> >>To: techdiver@aquanaut.com >> >> >> >>Joel, >> >> >> >> Our facility is currently using the Nitrox Stix. It's ok. The O2 >> >sensor located in the intake is worthless. I use the mechanical lpm gauge >> >to determine the approximate level of O2(ie: 9.25 lpm = 32%, 12.5 lpm = >> >36%.). Overall, I rate the system a 7.5 out of 10. It's an inexpensive >> >system and if the facility is not pumping big quantities of EANx, they're a >> >good way to get started. BTW, we've had the system for 10 months. I pump >> >about 500 to 800 cubic feet per week. >> >> >> >>See ya, >> >>Brett >> >>brettdiver@ao*.co* >> >>-- >> >>Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. >> >>Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. >> > >> >> -- >> Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. >> Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > > > > > -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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