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Captain Zero, What difference of application can you possibly be referring to? In case you are unaware, both George and I are primarily ocean divers. George lives minutes from my boat, and we ocean dive together using DIR with great success. You may find if you try to implement DIR in toto, that your dives become much more productive. Until a few years ago, I felt much like you and was into personal preference since I was an "experienced wreck" diver. All this changed with one dive using the DIR methods, since I felt much slicker and quicker. My dives have become much more productive & enjoyable. The true "proof of the pudding" if you will, is that I can and have done many different types of dives in different environments and even countries without changing anything in my rig except exsposure suits. Why do anything else? Try it, instead of making up reasons to justify the non-defensable "personal preference" arguement. Regards, Errol Kalayci -----Original Message----- From: KVI <kirvine@sa*.ne*> To: CAPTZEROOO@ao*.co* <CAPTZEROOO@ao*.co*> Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com <techdiver@aquanaut.com> Date: Thursday, December 03, 1998 6:20 AM Subject: Re: techdiver arguments >Zero, explain one of these rigs to us , and the logic of that rig. I do >not want to hear vague references to something - I want a rig. > >The light is bullshit - why have a clunky, non-focusable light ( useless >as a signalling device) or for looking distances that hangs off of you >danging or is a weight in your hand that you can not use and use your >hand at the same time. All the parts of the lights are replaceable in an >instant, and the small ones burn 40-60 minutes - enough for a wreck >dive. We use backup lights on the harness that are twist on 3- C cell. > >Zero, why not have gear and a config that stays the same while working >in all situations, rather than a limited config that will not? > >Why not have a standard set of emergency responses that work for >everyone? > >Some anonomous character sent me a private saying that our system is not >"self sufficient". He is wrong: we are both self sufficient and buddy >divers - we have both . He did not bother to tell me what system is more >"self suffeicient" than ours, nor can he and have it make any sense. > > >CAPTZEROOO@ao*.co* wrote: >> >> No one is saying your wrong. The DIR methods work & as your team has shown >> work well. You are all to be commended for this. >> >> The problem some of us have with YOU & DIR is your insistance that DIR is THE >> ONLY WAY to dive right. There can be more than one right way. Diffrent people >> can dive diffrent rigs with sucsess. >> >> One of the key questions here is how do you define sucess. very few (no) >> organazation of wreck or Rec. divers does the dives your team does, so it is >> hard to get a good comparrison. I have been diving my sytem on wrecks off of >> boats anchored to wrecks for over 2000. dives with great results and sucses. >> But does my 2000 dives in the ocean on wrecks really compare to your whole >> team in caves. not really, a lot of the diving physics and physiology are the >> same but not the types of dives being done. That would not be a fair or >> logical conparison. >> >> We would need to find a more level apples to apples comparison to really pit >> one sagainst another. I think that these inherent diffrences are part of what >> is causing the friction. plus that deaded phrase "personal prefrence" I like >> a good Uk 800, 1200 aqua sun dive light over the ones your team, uses. I do >> not need the kind of burn time you do 50 - 60 min is enough for me. I like a >> simpler light because if some thing breaks on my light or does not seem right >> before I jump in, I grab another out of my box and roll over the side. With no >> scooter or reel lines to worry about having the light in my hand works well >> Albiet in MY situation With my type of diving. If one of my fares needs a >> light I can just hand one to him with out having to intergrate it into his >> rig. Again a diffrent application. >> >> I belive that the diffrences in applications is part of what makes it so hard >> to compare sytems. How do we correct or allow for these diffrences when >> comparing gear ?? >> >> Please no flames just earnst replys >> >> Captain Zero >> Member EDBA > >-- >Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. >Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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