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From: <RLatulip@ao*.co*>
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 01:20:15 EST
To: Grey@is*.ca*
Cc: cavers@ca*.co*, techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: Da pra tomar uma kaiser antes???
In a message dated 11/21/1998 11:23:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, Grey@is*.ca*
writes:

> Hello guys,
>  
>  Reading for the first time this mailing list, and I am so surprised how
>  stuppid you people can be...
>  
>  First I read that BRASIL is a third world country. Them, I read that
someone
>  considers that he is better than other because he goes deeper. Them, the
>  other guy thinks he is better than the other because he is an american guy,
>  and original USA diver.
>  

Give it a break an argument between a couple of guys and you blame the whole
list!
Oh and yes you are considered a Third World Country:
Third World Development Series:
http://www.mediaguild.com/outofdev.html

Over the past fifty years, millions of Brazilians have left the poverty of the
rural
areas, particularly from Brazil's northeast, attracted to the cities with the
promise of jobs and a better life. Poverty,overcrowded living conditions, poor
sanitation and malnutrition are among the major problems in cities like Sao
Paulo. Yet, Brazil has the eighth largest economy in the world and is the
biggest agricultural exporter after the U.S. This documentary explores how
it is that a country with so much potential seems to have excluded the
majority of its population from the benefits of development. BBC-TV/OPEN
UNIVERSITY

>  Next time, you will be talking about the size of your dicks, the speed of
>  your cars and how much money do you have and bla bla bla bla...
>  
>  Let's stop this shit!
>  
>  Learn someting...
>  EUA is not better than BRASIL. Come on to BRASIL and try to figure out why
>  our contry may be better than yours. We have really nice people, our kids
do
>  not kill their friends at school, we have the most beatifull wild places in
>  the world, an incredible ocean and incredible rivers, forests and islands.
>  
>  When you see poor people, remember that our main problems are most caused
by
>  your no-sense capitalism.
>  

Umm even the UN calls Brazil a less developed country! Seems all your poor is 
do to over crowding caused by to much #$#@ and not the U.S.A.
Oh and in case you forget the Spanish are not indigenous 
to Brazil but they came and oppressed just as they did through out most of
this
hemisphere in the last couple of hundred years. Only in the U.S.A we stopped 
them cold at Mexico at New Orleans at Florida and California.

http://palladio.arch.Virginia.EDU/~plac544/brazil/test.html
According to United Nations projections, the world's most highly populated
cities in the year 2,000 will be located in less developed countries
(LDCs). Of the top ten "mega cities", two of them, Sao Paulo and Rio de
Janeiro,
will have 24 million and 13 million people respectively by the year 2,000.
These cities will reach such phenomenal levels of population as a result of
rapid
urban population growth which will require massive new housing areas and
redevelopment of existing neighborhoods. Ironically, these cities are already
experiencing great difficulties in managing their available financial and
natural
resources for a well- functioning urban system. Nearly 20 percent of
Rio de Janeiro's residents are currently living in favelas (informal housing
settlements) with serious infrastructure deficiencies that reduce quality of
life
and economic productivity while increasing the vulnerability of the poor.
While these settlements are growing, the debt crises in the last decade have
accelerated the deterioration of Brazil's economic prosperity to automatically
improve urban living conditions. 

>  For you americans, if any country is not following the "american way of
>  life", or any "USA rules", they need to be banished... Isn't it the way you
>  think? With the intuit to save your money, you fucks countries like CUBA
and
>  Russia. Unfortunatelly, we are very close to your politics and we won't do
>  any better until we forget that USA exists.

Americans??? Isn't Brazil in the Americas or did you forget your geography.
Oh and Cuba is so great that is why they are dying to reach Miami. Castro
can kiss my ass. On second thought forget about that he is so old he'll be
D.O.A.
anytime now and Cuba will be free again.

Pope greets Brazil's poor:
http://www.thonline.com/th/news/100497/National/77978.htm


  
>  This also applies to scuba diving. You your rules are the only right rules?
>  As I know (and I am sure about it), we know just a little about dive
>  phisiology and even less about our complex nature. I am really worried
about
>  you and your standards.
> 

Better standards that save than no standards at all. 

>  If you think that only you, americans divers, are experienced technical and
>  just you "Do It Right", I'm glad to tell you that you are wrong. The world
>  is filled with a power that we cannot handle, and no fucking standard will
>  save you.

Gee I forgot Brazil has it all over Florida when it comes to technical diving.
  
>  Please grow up guys! ;)
>  

No you grow up and quit attacking the whole list!   

>  Guiminha
>  
>  Trash, smoke, CO, nukes, guns, oil, drugs, wars, capitalism = ...
>  Do you know this country???  ;(
>  

Except for the nukes could be downtown Sao Paulo.
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