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I am geting really tired of you. The girl had two 80's, one with 80%, one with 30 something %. One on the left, one on the right. NO MARKINGS WHAT SO EVER ON THE TANKS ( the dive shop said they had had a piece of masking tape with the analysis - her back tanks had such a tape, but it was days old and for a diffrent dive). The SOP for your bullshit IANTD is to have the high ox on the right, low on the left - FARM ANIMAL STUPID. The other assinine method you guys use is to have different regs, poodle jackets on the regs, mark the regs, color code, etc. THAT ONLY GIVES YOU MORE CHANCES TO SCREW UP. Ornstein breathed her 80% from 130 on up, and toxed. Now I am going to tell you my method one last time, so listen up. The bottle has the MOD on it horizontally in the orientation of the bottle on either side. That is the only id, other than my name on the bottle. Regs make no difference. The reg is parked, the bottle is off. When you go to use the bottle, you look for the one you want, identify it, you take the reg from it, you put it around your neck, and then you go back to the botle you want to breath based on the MOD, identify it, and turn it on. IF YOU CAN BREATH, YOU ARE BREATHING THE RIGHT GAS. There is no better , safer, more certain method. When you mixed this gas, the bottle was emptied, it was checked for MOD marking, and then two pieces of tape were applied. You added your first gas, and with the whip still attached you wrote the date, and the psi of that gas. Your then added your second gas ( if there was a second gas), and with the whip still attached you wrote that psi .( You analyzed that gas if you deemed it important, I do not care what helium I have other than for narcosis puroposes . ) You then added your air. Then, you analyzed that tank, wrote the analysis on the other piece of tape and the date, and put the first piece of tape over the mouth of the tank to indicate it was full. This tape can be removed prior to diving so as not to litter, and then a new one put back on if the tank is not used. All tanks must be transported ( including back tanks) with the analysis and date, or treated as empties and not used without either analyzing them again or dumping them. Bottles are on the left side in keeping with our whole DIR gear system, and to reduce drag from current. Small aluminum bottles should be used in the ocean, and in that case they can be both on the left hip and left side normal placement. John, I run the most successful project ever in diving with a perfect track record. On the other hand, tech diving instruction has the worst track record of anything I have ever seen other than Vietnam helicopter pilots, only you dumb asses are shooting at yourselves, and you have a dyslexic moron running the show on one side, and a ridiculous deep air diving fat slob on the other - neither knows jack in my opinion, and both have the track record to prove it. John Walker wrote: > > KVI wrote: > > > > relying on position for gas identification is sheer stupidity, and it > > did in fact cause jane Ornstein's death. You refuse to listen to what we > > are saying, and therefor do not understand the principle. You can either > > start listening, or I ma going to go public on you again , only this > > time I am not going to be nearly so polite as last time. In a nutshell, > > you are being an idiot. > > Thats fine George. After all the name calling you do towards people > you know nothing about and alot of fabricated B.S. your calling me the > idiot. I am all ears, and if you too would listen instead of shooting > your mouth off, you would see that infact I do appreciate your QUALITY > information and think that you and your team has accomplished mucho for > this sport. > As for the Ornstein death I feel this is trajic and cannot comment on > much due to the fact that I was not there, have not read any reports > other than whats been put on techdiver and as you know of agency > slandering policies. If in fact that the stage configuration was the > cause of this accident then please show me why. If from the rest of > what I've heard about it is true, this was way beyond the stage > positioning and I'll leave it at that. > George, I do not want to battle with you every chance I get. I just > can't get over your aproach methods and by thinking that this is the > only way you can get people to listen is pure bullshit. You just > brought an artical from Frans to the techdiver list to bash him and he's > not even a member. This makes no sense to me. I've dove with him many > times and have never seen anything remotely dangerous from him. In fact > I would say that Frans is conservative at the least. This pissed me > off. > Many people have great respect for you and many more would if you > did'nt have such a fucked up attitude. Maybe I'm misunderstand you but > I think that you misunderstand me also. Several months ago I posted > privetly to you a mellow response to a friends death and you through it > in my face for what ever reason. You can't even think that I'm going to > respond kindly to that. > If infact you would like to make this sport as safe as possible than > work with us not against us. > > John -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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