The facts, Vandermolen, are that more people have been killed in IANTD training classes this year alone than have ever been killed diving with the WKPP in any form. Under my watch, there have been no deaths, and that is simply because I do not tolerate the kid of crap you teach, for example. The deaths in the past at WKPP were: 1) Bill McFadden - deep air - a course that assholes like you teach - we do not allow it . 2) Parker Turner - cave collapsed on him. Your dyslexic Mr Maloprop even mentions this fact in the "Book of Mouth" as an example of the hazards of cave diving, something a parasitic stroke like you knows nothing about. 2) Sherwood Schile - personal preference gear management caused a cluster resulting in his death. I had refused to dive with him that day due to this - ask the Mouth, he was delivering my bottles and I recalled them from him. He will verify this fact. I do not allow people to dive who are not 100% and 100% on board with our rules and methods. On the other hand, Vandrmolen, you flaming idiot, our own Bobby McGuirre was killed doing exactly what you strokes teach - diving improperly marked bottles. He breathed the wrong gas, just like Jane Orenstein did five years later. He broke our rules , and you continue to fail to learn from the past, and will repeat it so long as your insurance holds out. My bet is they make you do it our way or not at all. I also want to mention that I really resent it when a complete idiot like you runs his mouth on subjects about which they have no information, no expertise, no knowledge, no experiecne, and no brain with which to discuss them. You are the quintessential dive shop bozon, and the worst of a really bad lot of wand-waved cave instructors who has never done a real dive in his life, in my opinion. Frans Vandermolen wrote: > > Tom, > > Why are you wasting your valuable time with people that know better, have > been doing this stuff longer > and are writing the book on how to do this the right way. By the time they > have logged as many hours > as you have, or are as old as you are today, they may say something. > > I did not run the statistics, but I believe percentage-wise more WKPP > divers have died while diving > than "other" technical divers. I.e. what gives them the right to force > their insights onto others? > > cheers, > frans -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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