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Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 14:27:13 -0700 (PDT)
To: parashooter@ju*.co* (Pete Pappas III),
From: Kevin Rottner <Kevin@So*.co*>
Subject: What a waste of time

>I have been reading this list for several months now, I had joined in
>hopes of getting USEFUL information, and INTELLIGENT DISCUSSION.

Dear Pete:

I realized I started the last flamewar, so let me just say I cannot allow
someone to post something to the effect that its all right to just let
somebody die in the water. Maybe its a genetic quirk in my character,
machismo, or maybe the memories of those friends I have buried. Thats it and
its over.

Don't leave the list. Consider it a personal invitation from me to stay.

Consider Techdiver like your favorite local watering hole, or better yet,
the bar at the dock where all the diveboats in your area berth at. The place
you hit when the cars all packed with dive gear and you are hungry and feel
like a beer after a long day diving. Everybody meets up to talk about cave
diving, wreck diving, tech diving, whatever your pleasure. There are some
divers in the bar with homemade 'breathers, and there are some in the bar
who shout "DIR". There are those in the bar who scream "Long hose, short
hose !" There are some divers in bar with 22 second stages connecting to 11
first stages and then there are those who have the name BILL MAIN in their
address book. There are some divers who believe in 80/20 and others in pure
O2. There are some divers that hate securing their gear bags to their roofs
with bungie cords, there are some divers that like bungies so much they have
them on their BCD's. Some divers do two dives a year, some two hundred or
more. Some just love to argue about the alphabet ( ANDI vs TDI vs IANTD vs
PSA. )

A very diversified group. And therein lies the beauty . . .

And in this bar of 957 divers some just come in a sit down and just listen,
they are the lurkers. ( Hi Clay B. ). Some newer diver only comment when a
subject comes up that they really know something about, or something that
really interests them. (Hi Matthew R. and Steve H. ). There is a group that
is always talking, and are really knowledgeable about what they are
discussing ( You know who you are ). Unfortunately, there are also some who
shout things at the top of their lungs, and are wrong, dead wrong. Its
unfortunate because some readers of Techdiver mistake these foolish and
dangerous court jesters for the old wise men the King keeps around for
counsel, just because they have visibility and post. Its a bar full of
divers and you have the cloice to come on in and grab a barstool ( SUBSCRIBE
), or to keep quiet and listen ( LURK ), you may sound off ( POST ), or you
may leave ( UNSUBSCRIBE ). Heck you can even just phone the bartender and
secretly see who's been up to what ( ARCHIVES ). The choice is yours.

I saw something in a post about how one diver was willing to do just about
whatever it takes to save another ( Hi Joel S. ). I agreed with that
STRONGLY. I saw something in a responce post arguing that point.  I strongly
disagreed with that statement, and spoke my mind. It did start a mini brush
fire, but thats Techdiver. The water dropping fire planes are on a regular
schedule !

To be honest, I think any bar that doesn't have an occasional fistfight or
shootout is not the kind of bar I want to be caught in.

Please do not unsubscribe. Let me buy you a beer.

Kevin




"Don't forget your history,
 Know your destiny,
 In the abundance of water,
 The fool is thirsty."

Robert Nesta Marley

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Kevin Rottner
Southern California SCUBA

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