Hi Art,
The vast majority of my diving is done in the Ocean.  I dive almost every
day.  In the last 6 weeks I have dove on the Wall in Bimini, shallow & deep
reefs & wrecks in Ft. Lauderdale, Oslo Fjord in Norway, and the Sala
Silvermine in Sala, Sweden (flooded mine system).  Additionally, this week I
have dove open circuit single tank, with doubles and stages, and on the
Halcyon & Halcyon II rebreathers.  My gear rigging has been the same on
every dive in every condition.  The only changes have been thermal
protection needs in the 34 degree water of Sweden vs. the 88 degree water of
the Bahamas.  I also have 2 more hoses on my Halcyon rebreather.  In short,
I have used the WKPP style of gear configuration in every environment that I
can imagine (vis in Sweden ranged from zero to 20 feet).  It works
everywhere, if it did not I would not use it.
Errol Kalayci
-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*>
To: Paltz, Art <Art.Paltz@R2*.CO*>; Tech Diver <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Date: Saturday, October 10, 1998 3:27 PM
Subject: RE: Tech meeting


>Art-
>
>Your feelings about the applicability of DIR to ocean diving are shared
>by many. The whole point of the discussion is to determine among us what
>aspects of DIR rigging is applicable. Personally I like DIR as-is and
>think it is ideal for ocean diving, but I cannot (nor can anybody) TELL a
>diver to do it one way or another. You need to appeal to a divers
>intellect with practical examples and discussion.
>
>A big problem is demonstrated by you, the knee-jerk reaction that anyone
>pro DIR is automatically guilty of demagoguery. But the good news is that
>not all divers are computer nerds with no lives like you and me, so there
>is hope that some divers will watch, listen and consider rather than
>getting up and walking out of the room when a DIR concept is brought up.
>I have a feeling that if given a chance, DIR concepts will be embraced
>even by the old school if presented reasonably and in an ocean diving
>context. Hell, if someone can convince me of a DIW technique that is the
>best way to go, I've got an open mind. But I doubt it... ;)
>
> Jim
>
>On 10/9/98 10:23 PM Paltz, Art wrote:
>
>>Jim,
>>
>>I don't have a problem with the DIR system; I've implemented many
>>portions.  I've re-done my rigging to the DIR harness, I dive with stage
>>bottles on the left, I mark my bottles at the top with O2 percentage AND
>>MOD in really big numbers, etc.  I don't have a problem with it.  It
>>just sounded to me like you were becoming a bugle boy, that's all.  I'm
>>not being close minded or saying, "if it's DIR it's wrong!"  Just
>>sounded like you may have been saying, "if it's DIR it must be right".
>>For all to know, I'm not saying DIR is wrong!!  I do disagree with the
>>statement that DIR works optimally everywhere.  I don't want to get into
>>a discussion about where DIR is optimal and where it isn't and why.  If
>>people want to read about this they can look in the archives, it's been
>>beat to death!
>>
>>My comments on the ladder were only that I've never seen people needing
>>to take off all their gear in the water to get up the ladder.  I don't
>>know if the reason for taking off their gear was because of long deco
>>hangs?  Personally I relax on the line and enjoy it.  I've done 2 hours
>>on the anchor line, which I'd think is comparable to a Doria hang.
>>Never done the Doria so I don't know the profiles they were diving.  I
>>admitted that the ladder isn't optimal, said this before, I've been on
>>better.  I just think your post would have lead people to believe you
>>MUST take off your equipment to get up the ladder and I was just
>>illustrating that that wasn't the case.
>>
>>Safe diving,
>>Art.
>
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