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Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1998 06:06:01 -0400
From: KVI <kirvine@sa*.ne*>
Organization: DIR
To: Heather and Scott <swhac@gu*.ne*>
CC: techdiver <techdiver@aquanaut.com>, cavers@ca*.co*,
     freeattic@co*.ci*.uf*.ed*
Subject: Re: Chimiak, Johansen and Doppler
Scott, the hypoglycemia was because I started to drink the mixture and
lost it to the 60 foot dome, and could not go get it from 240. Once you
start with glucose, you have to do it very 45 minutes or you go hypo.
Exley got me going on that years ago. I lost interest in it, and forgot
about it, sending my other supplies up with the support divers. I then
was drinking the water and forgot all about the mix. I had a sandwich
that got wet, so did not eat that, and did not care any more once I got
to the trough. I should have taken it more seriously, since that is a
fine way to tox. I am amazed that I was only slightly below the bottom
of the scale - problably why I could not feel it, and that is due likely
to the other stuff being loaded up already. JJ did not eat all day, and
his food tube had only a token amount of stuff in it. Both of us were a
little complacent on this dive since it was only a few hours bottom
time, and a low pressure event - we did have a lot of fun , however. 

  We can run the scans and keep up the testing. My bet is that the
commerical guys are victims of 180 foot and below air deco and 200 foot
air working dives, and that I will show no lesions. I have shown none so
far, but I have never done a long air dive anyway, even in the old days.

  I would like to continue the studies with the same group of divers
since they are all swimmers and runners, and that is the part of doppler
and DCS that I want to rewrite the book on, as well as the shape of our
deco. All of the strokes are all calling me an idiot, yet the Navy tests
say otherwise.

  So what else is new?

Heather and Scott wrote:
> 
> George,
>    I meet w/ Dr. Chimiak today and he agrees that as far as the blood work
> and complement release are concerned, you guys are problem free.  In other
> words, from this view point, the body is not sensing the bubbles as a
> problem.  That is good news.  Hematalogically speaking no signs of DCS.
>    He is interested in problems w/ long bones and possible lesions.  Would
> like to know if you guys (multi years at your level) have any chronic bone
> pain?  Has seen it in commercial divers, etc, but never had test subjects
> quite like this.
>    We also stand a chance at being able to "rewrite" some chapters in
> regards  doppler studies etc.  They were really impressed/amazed at how fast
> the bubbles dissappeard.
>    There are more question for later.  We are working on the hypoglycemia
> thing, but it does not appear to be a potential problem.
>     Scott

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