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Erik, whats really scarey is some people associated with the CDAA organised a fund raiser for the two Australians to particpate in W2 as it apprently is costing them upwards of $30,000 to go, I hope nothing happens to them as I know I wouldn't like to be associated if it goes wrong. Now the "sat" thing is a joke, it must be a joke because running a sat = operation takes vast ammounts of equipment and back up and real money, serious wads of money to be exact. Every second of every minuete of every hour is gas,= sat technicians, electricity (with back up's), food, inter chamber management= , planning etc etc etc the list goes on and on. It's no surprise that the only peopl= e doing most of the sat work in the world are the Oil companies. I'll make example with cost, I was involved with putting a current meter = about 60mt's away from an oil production platform in the North West shelf (Australia) = now the reason was to allow a survey vessel to make close passes by the platform as a = field resurvey was being conducted looking for more drill sites etc and knowing what the cur= rent was doing is very important you could imagine getting 4 kilometers of acoustic stri= ng arround the platform would be a disaster. One current meter on the bottom $55,000 thankyou, because we could not = drop the meter from a barge as the floors covered with pipes we had to use divers, this = involved the usual 130' long tender with shipping containers full of gas, diver accomadation= , generators, fuel, oh and a chamber big enough for two divers and a tech, to keep it in pers= pective the job was one meter about the size of a small garbage can in a frame. The job took = about 2 hours to do and a cable run to the platform the up to the Helideck where there was = a radio modem transmitting the data to the survey vessel. It was a very simple job but = took about 2 weeks to organise and 2 hours to do. Get the picture, when done right and with = lots of money it's not a problem. These guys want to dive sat at Wakulla, it's a joke. Bruce Stewart ---------- > > This is obviously a case of Stone misleading some of the divers who wil= l > be on the expedition. that is, if it ever happens. There is no way to = > get a sat chamber down into the cave that far, he talks about the > entrance at 170 having a restiriction. from what I have heard the caver= n > walls slope back becoming a ceiling at about 130. If he does try and = get > it in there it will probably have some convoluted rigging apparatus the > likes of typical strokery. Or worse completely damaging the cave. This = > is the guy who wanted to drill a 12 ft diameter hole into A tunnel. tha= t > was one for the record. This Aussie diver must be believing some of = the > hocus pocus that Stone has been feeding the general cave diving > community as well as the media. > > Erik > > >From owner-techdiver@aquanaut.com Tue Oct 6 12:38:04 1998 > >Received: (mail@lo*) > > by bighorn.terra.net (8.8.6/jr3.9) for > > id LAA19614; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:41:43 -0400 > >Precedence: bulk > >Errors-To: owner-techdiver@aquanaut.com > >Received: from bighorn.terra.net (root@lo*) > > by bighorn.terra.net (8.8.6/jr3.9) with EXEC for techdiver > > id KAA15451; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 10:46:26 -0400 > >From: <diver@ch*.ne*.au*> > >Received: from jawa.chilli.net.au (root@ja*.ch*.ne*.au* > [203.56.188.10]) > > by bighorn.terra.net (8.8.6/jr3.9) with ESMTP for > <techdiver@aquanaut.com> > > id KAA15443; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 10:46:25 -0400 > >Received: from HOUSE (p112.chilli.net.au [203.56.188.231]) by > jawa.chilli.net.au (8.9.1/8.9.CHILLI) with SMTP id AAA26097 for > <techdiver@aquanaut.com>; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 00:52:13 +1000 > >Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 00:52:13 +1000 > >Message-Id: <199810061452.AAA26097@ja*.ch*.ne*.au*> > >X-Sender: diver@ma*.ch*.ne*.au* > >X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 > >Mime-Version: 1.0 > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii" > >To: techdiver@aquanaut.com > >Subject: Re: Wakulla2 Sat diving > > > >Ken, > >they even had him in the chamber (living quarters) talking about how = > the 4 > >guys would have to live, setup gear, and do the diving all from that = > small > >space for days on end. Didn't they once talk of drilling into the cave= ? > >They had footage of him with his Atlantis RB and said (in typical > >sensationalist journalistic fashion) he was journeying to the centre = of > the > >earth to see if it held enough water for the world. > >I know they were always going to have a chamber for dry deco but I > didnt > >realise they were doing sat style diving. Can any of you guys over > there > >confirm it. > > > >Thanks, > >Scott > > > >At 09:05 6/10/98 -0400, Ken Sallot wrote: > >>Not possible. There's no way for them to get a lockout chamber to > >>below 140' without destroying the cave. > >> > >>Ken > >> > >>> From: <diver@ch*.ne*.au*> > >>> Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 19:14:48 +1000 > >>> To: techdiver@aquanaut.com > >>> Subject: Wakulla2 Sat diving > >> > >>> I just saw a segment on tv about the guys who are going from here = to > dive > >>> Wakulla and one of the guys said they will be getting into a chambe= r > at 55m > >>> then brought to the surface where they will transfer to their livin= g > >>> quarters and remain at this 55m pressure for the whole expedition = > being > >>> transfered back and forth. Anyone know more about this? > >>> > >>> Scott > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to > `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > >>> Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to > `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > >>> > >>"I can't imagine anything more destructive for Gore's political > >>future than to talk about the information superhighway, and then to = > >>have the largest wreck in history on the first of January, 2000." > >> - House Speaker Newt Gingrich > >> > >> > > > >-- > >Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'= .. > >Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to > `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > > > > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > -- > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'= .. -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. 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