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From: "Dan Volker" <dlv@ga*.ne*>
To: "Techdiver" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>,
     "Rebreather" ,
     "pH" , "Kirvine" ,
     "Bill Mee"
Subject: FW: FW: antioxidants
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 11:14:21 -0400

From:  Terry [SMTP:terry@wo*.co*]
Sent:  Saturday, September 26, 1998 8:32 AM
To:  'pH'
Subject:  RE: FW: antioxidants

Ass face - I made no money "pushing" supplements - That's not what I do - as
far as my credientals - my education cost the government a cool 3 million
and I have a degrees in nutrition, exercise phys, sport sciences and have
been actively involved in nutritional chemistry and biology for over twenty
five years.......so go blow.
Terry

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From:  pH [SMTP:heseltine@ea*.ne*]
Sent:  Saturday, September 26, 1998 4:29 AM
To:  Dan Volker
Cc:  Techdiver; Rebreather; Kirvine; Bill Mee; Terry Giles
Subject:  Re: FW: antioxidants

Yeah. And the $64K question IS......what are "Terry's" credentials and how
much money did he make last month pushing "vitamins" to gullible guys?

pH


At 08:15 AM 9/25/98 -0400, Dan Volker wrote:
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Terry [mailto:terry@wo*.co*]
>Sent: Thursday, September 24, 1998 5:49 PM
>To: 'Dan Volker'
>Subject: RE: antioxidants
>
>
>In reference to this - vitamin c does not have a half life and the
>absorption ratio or absorption aspects of vitamin c depend largely on the
>source of supplemental vitamin c as well as the individual using the
vitamin
>c - all I can say is PH is quoting research 30 years old - he should pull
>his head out of his butt and read the latest research on anti-oxidants,
>vitamins, minerals and their absorption based on their effication and
>source. He sounds like a geek that read far too many out dated nutrition
and
>chemistry books.
>
>----------
>From:  Dan Volker [SMTP:dlv@ga*.ne*]
>Sent:  Thursday, September 24, 1998 9:24 AM
>To:  terry@wo*.co*
>Subject:  FW: antioxidants
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: rebreather-request@nw*.co*
>[mailto:rebreather-request@nw*.co*] On Behalf Of pH
>Sent: Monday, September 21, 1998 3:16 AM
>To: rebreather@nw*.co*
>Subject: Re: antioxidants
>
>
>At 06:40 PM 9/20/98 -0400, Katherine V. Irvine wrote:
>>  For C, we all know it does not last too long in the body.....
>
>Not desiring to read the rest of the extraordinary mumbo-jumbo that
>dribbled out of the mouth of Katherine aka George Irvine III, I had to
>laugh at the above, for it was on Vitamin C absorption and "retention" that
>I cut my research teeth almost 30 years ago.
>
>As many know, you can take large doses of Vit C and make your urine
>saturated with the stuff in short order. Plasma levels of Vit C follow a
>similar short half-life. Many, many years ago it was erroneously assumed
>that this meant you could "saturate" yourself with Vit C with a brief, high
>dose exposure.
>
>Leaving aside its "magical" powers - a dubious concept at best, now that
>Linus Pauling has gone to the great lemon in the sky - Vit C *tissue*
>levels are what it's all about.  Since most people object to bits being cut
>out of them at regular intervals, we measured Vit C levels in white blood
>cells (WBC), an established surrogate for (slow?) tissue. We found that it
>took about 6-8 weeks of 1-2 grams by mouth per day to establish maximum
>steady state levels of Vit C in WBC. As noted, this is not "new" research,
>but almost 30 years old. So, the question for G4 is - who is telling you
>these fairy tales?
>
>pH
>


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