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Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 08:35:38 EDT
To: techdiver@aquanaut.com, william@ca*.co*, JS1Scuba@ao*.co*,
     cobber@ci*.co*, howardr2@be*.ne*, Wahoo2001@ao*.co*
Subject: Fwd: FW: UNESCO spokesman - Ballard
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I had thsi forwared to me and thought it might be of intetrest to all.


<< > >
 > >This came in on Sept. 4 from Peter Hess.  Peggy Bowen
 > >Shipwreckers:
 > >Here's what we're up against: the UNESCO cartel that's trying to outlaw 
 > >all shipwreck salvage has got Bob Ballard as their spokesman.  He's a 
 > >tough act to follow.  However, he's also a hypocrite, as he has been 
 > >actively salvaging artifacts from the Roman wrecks he's found in the 
 > >Mediterranean, to place in his museum at Mystic, CT (where you have to 
 > >pay admission to get it!).  Ballard distinguishes Roman wrecks as 
 > >archaeological sites of which we are mostly ignorant, while we know 
 > >"everything there is to know" about Titanic.  Of course, this, too is 
 > >false: the recent recovery of the "Big Piece" of the ship's hull 
 > revealed 
 > >that Titanic rivets have 3 times the slag content as they should have.  
 > >This impurity in the iron makes the rivets far more suseptible to 
 > >catatrophic failure.  Thus, we are always learning from the artifacts 
 > we 
 > >rescue from marine peril.  The battle goes on....
 > >Peter Hess
 > >
 > >Subject: 	Your Morning News 
 > >Date: 		Fri, 04 Sep 1998 09:26:07 -0500 
 > >From: 		Larry Armstrong <laryarms@so*.ne*> 
 > >Reply-To: 	laryarms@so*.ne* 	Organization:      FMDAC 
 > >To:   		stockman@ja*.ps*.co*, rgierak@in*.co*,
 > 
 > >					WRECK_DIVER@co*.co*, Peter 
 > >Hess <HESSIANS@ao*.co*>,
 > >		kwills@wo*.at*.ne*
 > >
 > >>From ABC News:Explorer Wants Protection for Sunken Antiquities Sea 
 > Treasures Threatened
 > >"Don't stop explorers from exploring. ...   You should be able to 
 > >explore, but not exploit." 
 > >       - Robert Ballard, explorer
 > >
 > >L I S B O N,   Sept. 3 - Robert Ballard, the U.S.  marine explorer who 
 > >found the Titanic at the bottom of the Atlantic, has called for 
 > >legislation to protect antiquities in the deep from unscrupulous 
 > treasure 
 > >hunters.
 > >Ballard, who led the French-American team which discovered the wreck of 
 > >the Titanic in 1985, told Reuters in an interview in Lisbon he did not 
 > >believe the law of the sea provided adequate protection to relics on 
 > the 
 > >seabed.
 > >He said that as ownership belonged to the salvager, wealthy treasure 
 > >hunters could acquire the latest technology to search wide and deep and 
 > >raid sunken ships for profit.
 > >"The (sonar) technology (to find shipwrecks) is readily available. 
 > >Treasure hunters can buy the technology. They will go out there and 
 > bring 
 > >up what they want," he said.
 > >Ballard, speaking on Wednesday, called for UNESCO to make national 
 > >governments responsible for antiquities in their  territorial waters up 
 > >to 200 nautical miles (320 km) from their coastlines, where the vast 
 > >majority of wrecks were located around the world.
 > >At present the law just provided for commercial interests such as 
 > >fishing, mineral and oil rights in territorial waters.
 > >Protection for 'Human History'
 > >"I want to add to the law of the sea (the words) 'and human history'," 
 > >the explorer said.
 > >But Ballard, whose work is sponsored by the National Geographic Society 
 > >and who has used the latest submersibles of the U.S. Navy, warned that 
 > >such a law must not discourage deep-sea exploration.
 > >"Don't stop explorers from exploring," he said. "It is important that 
 > >nations don't pass a law giving themselves control over exploration," 
 > he 
 > >added. "You should be able to explore, but not exploit."
 > >Apart from the Titanic, Ballard's activities include searching the 
 > >Atlantic for the German battleship the Bismarck, which he found with 
 > its 
 > >huge swastika intact, and salvaging 2nd century B.C. artifacts from 
 > cargo 
 > >ships which sank in the Mediterranean.
 > >Filming, Not Touching, Wrecks 
 > >His technique is to send down cameras on submersible robots that tour 
 > the 
 > >outside and inside of wrecks, filming the underwater museums for 
 > >posterity.
 > >Ballard said he preferred to leave his discoveries intact and not to 
 > >salvage them.  "I could probably find 300 ships for the price of 
 > >salvaging one," he said. 
 > >The explorer said he was preparing a journey to the Black Sea in June 
 > >1999 to study trade routes of Greek and Scythian vessels more than 
 > 2,000 
 > >years ago.  He said he was confident he could find ships in pristine 
 > >condition because in the depths of the Black Sea there was
 > >no oxygen to support life, such as ravenous wood-boring underwater 
 > worms 
 > >that destroy the wooden hulls of ships. 
 > >Ballard said chances were better of finding wrecks in good shape in the 
 > >Black Sea than, for instance, Portugal's mid-Atlantic Azores islands, 
 > >another major ships' graveyard.
 > >Getting to the Bottom of Ship-Shape
 > >He said that ships off the volcanic Azores had often hit a rocky 
 > bottom, 
 > >rather than sinking into sand, leaving them susceptible to attack from 
 > >the wood-borers.  Ballard said he looked forward to the day when people 
 > >using the Internet could watch film taken by submersible robots of 
 > famous 
 > >wrecks such as the Titanic or the U.S.  aircraft carrier Yorktown.
 > >In May, a team led by Ballard located and photographed the Yorktown, 
 > sunk 
 > >by the Japanese at the Battle of Midway in the Pacific in 1942.  
 > Ballard 
 > >said the ship was in excellent condition despite sitting for more than 
 > 50 
 > >years under 5,000 metres (16,650 feet) of water.
 > >About 40 U.S. servicemen were killed when the Yorktown went down on 
 > June 
 > >7, 1942, hit by Japanese bombers and then torpedoed by a submarine. 
 > There 
 > >were 2,270 survivors.
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > 
 > 
  >>


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Just passing this along.


> >
> >This came in on Sept. 4 from Peter Hess.  Peggy Bowen
> >Shipwreckers:
> >Here's what we're up against: the UNESCO cartel that's trying to outlaw=
 
> >all shipwreck salvage has got Bob Ballard as their spokesman.  He's a 
> >tough act to follow.  However, he's also a hypocrite, as he has been 
> >actively salvaging artifacts from the Roman wrecks he's found in the 
> >Mediterranean, to place in his museum at Mystic, CT (where you have to 
> >pay admission to get it!).  Ballard distinguishes Roman wrecks as 
> >archaeological sites of which we are mostly ignorant, while we know 
> >"everything there is to know" about Titanic.  Of course, this, too is 
> >false: the recent recovery of the "Big Piece" of the ship's hull 
> revealed 
> >that Titanic rivets have 3 times the slag content as they should have. =
 
> >This impurity in the iron makes the rivets far more suseptible to 
> >catatrophic failure.  Thus, we are always learning from the artifacts 
> we 
> >rescue from marine peril.  The battle goes on....
> >Peter Hess
> >
> >Subject: =09Your Morning News 
> >Date: =09=09Fri, 04 Sep 1998 09:26:07 -0500 
> >From: =09=09Larry Armstrong <laryarms@so*.ne*> 
> >Reply-To: =09laryarms@so*.ne* =09Organization:      FMDAC 
> >To:   =09=09stockman@ja*.ps*.co*, rgierak@in*.co*,
> 
> >=09=09=09=09=09WRECK_DIVER@co*.co*, Peter 
> >Hess <HESSIANS@ao*.co*>,
> >=09=09kwills@wo*.at*.ne*
> >
> >>From ABC News:Explorer Wants Protection for Sunken Antiquities Sea 
> Treasures Threatened
> >"Don't stop explorers from exploring. ...   You should be able to 
> >explore, but not exploit." 
> >       - Robert Ballard, explorer
> >
> >L I S B O N,   Sept. 3 - Robert Ballard, the U.S.  marine explorer who 
> >found the Titanic at the bottom of the Atlantic, has called for 
> >legislation to protect antiquities in the deep from unscrupulous 
> treasure 
> >hunters.
> >Ballard, who led the French-American team which discovered the wreck of=
 
> >the Titanic in 1985, told Reuters in an interview in Lisbon he did not 
> >believe the law of the sea provided adequate protection to relics on 
> the 
> >seabed.
> >He said that as ownership belonged to the salvager, wealthy treasure 
> >hunters could acquire the latest technology to search wide and deep and=
 
> >raid sunken ships for profit.
> >"The (sonar) technology (to find shipwrecks) is readily available. 
> >Treasure hunters can buy the technology. They will go out there and 
> bring 
> >up what they want," he said.
> >Ballard, speaking on Wednesday, called for UNESCO to make national 
> >governments responsible for antiquities in their  territorial waters up=
 
> >to 200 nautical miles (320 km) from their coastlines, where the vast 
> >majority of wrecks were located around the world.
> >At present the law just provided for commercial interests such as 
> >fishing, mineral and oil rights in territorial waters.
> >Protection for 'Human History'
> >"I want to add to the law of the sea (the words) 'and human history'," 
> >the explorer said.
> >But Ballard, whose work is sponsored by the National Geographic Society=
 
> >and who has used the latest submersibles of the U.S. Navy, warned that 
> >such a law must not discourage deep-sea exploration.
> >"Don't stop explorers from exploring," he said. "It is important that 
> >nations don't pass a law giving themselves control over exploration," 
> he 
> >added. "You should be able to explore, but not exploit."
> >Apart from the Titanic, Ballard's activities include searching the 
> >Atlantic for the German battleship the Bismarck, which he found with 
> its 
> >huge swastika intact, and salvaging 2nd century B.C. artifacts from 
> cargo 
> >ships which sank in the Mediterranean.
> >Filming, Not Touching, Wrecks 
> >His technique is to send down cameras on submersible robots that tour 
> the 
> >outside and inside of wrecks, filming the underwater museums for 
> >posterity.
> >Ballard said he preferred to leave his discoveries intact and not to 
> >salvage them.  "I could probably find 300 ships for the price of 
> >salvaging one," he said. 
> >The explorer said he was preparing a journey to the Black Sea in June 
> >1999 to study trade routes of Greek and Scythian vessels more than 
> 2,000 
> >years ago.  He said he was confident he could find ships in pristine 
> >condition because in the depths of the Black Sea there was
> >no oxygen to support life, such as ravenous wood-boring underwater 
> worms 
> >that destroy the wooden hulls of ships. 
> >Ballard said chances were better of finding wrecks in good shape in the=
 
> >Black Sea than, for instance, Portugal's mid-Atlantic Azores islands, 
> >another major ships' graveyard.
> >Getting to the Bottom of Ship-Shape
> >He said that ships off the volcanic Azores had often hit a rocky 
> bottom, 
> >rather than sinking into sand, leaving them susceptible to attack from 
> >the wood-borers.  Ballard said he looked forward to the day when people=
 
> >using the Internet could watch film taken by submersible robots of 
> famous 
> >wrecks such as the Titanic or the U.S.  aircraft carrier Yorktown.
> >In May, a team led by Ballard located and photographed the Yorktown, 
> sunk 
> >by the Japanese at the Battle of Midway in the Pacific in 1942.  
> Ballard 
> >said the ship was in excellent condition despite sitting for more than 
> 50 
> >years under 5,000 metres (16,650 feet) of water.
> >About 40 U.S. servicemen were killed when the Yorktown went down on 
> June 
> >7, 1942, hit by Japanese bombers and then torpedoed by a submarine. 
> There 
> >were 2,270 survivors.
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
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