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To: techdiver@opal.com
Subject: Re: The "Big Wreck"
From: Alan Wright <alan@mi*.de*.co*.uk*>
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 1994 02:42:50 +0100 (GMT)
Christina Young wrote (in reply to me):

> > ... and I'm not even a conservationist.
> 
> Are you an animal rights extremist from PETA?  This is the same argument
> they make when telling people to not swat flies.  Is every individual plant
> and animal on the planet worth an infinite amount (and therefore must
> be saved)?

You know, it's sad. Christina takes the time to join this discussion
group and join in the discussions but doesn't actually take time to
read and understand the posts to which she feels it necessary to
respond. BTW, this is actually the second time during this thread that
someone has done this.

Anyway, to make it easy for Christina, let me re-iterate. I made two
basic points:

1. It is naive to assume that people who take things from wrecks are
only doing so to preserve artifacts.

2. IMHO life is worth more than brass.

Okay, for those able to maintain a line of thought. On point 1 (aside
from some good points made by others in response to Christina) I don't
object to the saving of artifacts per se, but some people often do it
to simply salvage scrap. The problem is that the things they scrap may
very well be artifacts deserving of preservation. Also, as a wreck
tourist, my pleasure is spoilt if everything has been removed. Why
should someone as selfish as Christina be allowed to enjoy her diving
at the expense of mine (rhetorical)?

On point 2, I don't think this is extreme. I think it is extreme to
draw the conclusion from my statements that I am an animal rights
extremist. Those who know me would probably testify that I'm about as
much an activist or extremist as your average doornail. But that is
beside the point. It is my opinion and normally personal opinions are
tolerated on the internet.

> Sorry you all, maybe a newsgroup on rec.scuba.philosophy should be
> started.  Let's get back to talking about technical diving.  I'm
> getting tired of this debate.

Then don't follow it. Your narrow minded perception on what
constitutes appropriate material for this group is of little
consequence. It ran perfectly well for several years before you
arrived and I'm sure it will continue happily should you decide to
leave. We have had many useful discussion on the philosophy of
technical diving and why people do certain things. Personally, I see
no incongruity in discussing what people see as important in wreck
diving.

So for Christina let me just keep it simple: if you don't like a
thread, don't follow it.

Alan
alan@mi*.de*.co*.uk*
Is it true that Christina is an ichthyoligist in her day job?

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