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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 08:33:00 -0400 (EDT)
From: CHRISTOPHER L WERNER <clw5232@ga*.ac*.fs*.ed*>
To: kevin.obrien@ci*.co*
cc: deepgasdvr@ho*.co*, cavers@ca*.co*, techdiver@aquanaut.com,
     FBama98@ao*.co*
Subject: Re: DeepBS Article
You can't learn to dive from magazines. Do yourself a favor and don't fall
into the trap. The best thing to do is to dive repeatedly with more
experienced DIR divers. Save yourself time and money and your life.

Chris Werner

On Thu, 10 Sep 1998 kevin.obrien@ci*.co* wrote:

>         Are there any mags out there for newbies like myself who are 
> interested in learning and getting an understanding of what is going on so 
> we can make an informed decision before we take the plunge?
> 
> Regards,
> ______________________________ Reply Separator
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> Subject: Re: DeepBS Article
> Author:  deepgasdvr(a)hotmail.com at INTERNET
> Date:    9/10/98 12:11 PM
> 
> 
> Frank, It is safe to say that everything that comes out of this weenie 
> mag is complete trash. 
> 
> Erik
> 
> >From fbama98@ao*.co* Wed Sep  9 08:35:10 1998
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> >To: cavers@ca*.co*, techdiver@aquanaut.com, 
> freeattic@co*.ci*.uf*.ed*
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> >Subject: DeepBS Article
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> >
> >The latest edition of DeepBS magazine is indeed a classic.  This 
> issue's
> >"public enemy number 1" appears to be Tim O'Leary, as he is the 
> featured
> >villain in the article "The Most Exciting Dive I Never Did."  The 
> article
> >basically calls Tim a liar for claiming to have done 528' on air.  
> >
> >There are so many ironies in this article that I do not know where to 
> begin.
> >First, look at the author..."Compiled by the DeepTech Editoral Staff."
> >Hmmm...I guess Gilliam got tired of being sued for making accusations 
> he could
> >not prove.
> >
> >Second, they had a chance to speak out against the stupidity of deep 
> air,
> >something Tim now preaches, but never did...they seemed much more 
> interested
> >in bashing Tim.  Now why would they want to do that?  Could it have 
> anything
> >to do with the fact that Tim is heading up NAUI's new Tech program, an 
> obvious
> >threat to TDI?  No, surely not.
> >
> >Third, the reasoning for their assertion that the dive never happend is
> >interesting.  They support their argument by pointing out that Tim 
> claims to
> >have done the dive on an 80 and that with a SAC of 0.75 cu ft/min, he 
> would
> >not have had enough gas.  Well, for the typical "DeepTech Editorial 
> Staff"
> >member, 0.75 might be pretty damn good, but having dove with Tim, I 
> call tell
> >you his is about half that.
> >
> >Next, it seems ironic that when Gilliam did his then record dive to 
> 4whatever,
> >he used a similar gear configuration, and when his story was questioned 
> on
> >similar grounds he boasted that he could do dives like that because of 
> his
> >outstanding air consumption, which we can now assume must be .75 or 
> greater,
> >which is by the way, flat out shitty.  Having dove with Gilliam, I can 
> tell
> >you that that is being generous.
> >
> >Finally, the greatest irony of all comes from the fact that on the 
> preceeding
> >page is an quote by the BatMan himself, Jim Bowden.  Regarding his 925' 
> dive
> >(?!?) he states "Where did I stop?  Who knows?  I was desperate to get 
> out of
> >there."  And he is the great hero of DeepBS magazine!  In this same 
> article, a
> >list of sub 500' dives is presented.  Can there be a more irresponsible 
> act
> >than to promote and encourage this kind of activity?  I can see every 
> wide
> >eyed Tom, Dick and Harry of tech diving reading this and saying to 
> themselves,
> >"hey, all I have to do is a bounce dive to 500' and I can be famous 
> just like
> >Jim  Bowden!"
> >
> >What a bunch of crap.  How does this rag stay in business?  Amazing.
> >
> >Frank
> >
> 
> 
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