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Steve, that article you posted by Gerrard is patently riciculous. As
anyone can see, Gerard is operating in a one dimensional vacuum. He has
given no thought to anything  in his discussion, and has applied his
very limited diving to solve a problem that does not exist while not
seeing the obvious solution to all situtations at once that I outlined
in discussion of why we DIR.

 Otherwise, ther are no "top" cave divers who put the long hose on the
left post. Even Gerrard should know that the outside port manifolds are
new in the last ten years, that the old style manifold ( center post)
always had the long hose on the right post, and he should know who
designed the system to work with outside posts and had them first ( WKPP
), and he should know that the rest of us stage dive, and as I said, our
system covers all contingencies quite well and leaves no gaps in the
logic - Gerrard's is clearly flawed in many ways which you will pick up
in my last post.

Another severe problem is that any slight closing of the valves will
result in the inability to breath at depth ( even maybe 80 feet ) while
everything seemed fine in shallower water. If you have put your hose on
the wrong post, roll it a tad but can't tell due to the depth, and then
go deeper and have  problem that results in the need for more gas, then
you have the prescription for a real panic that may cause you to not
consider that the post is rolled, but make you believe you are out of
gas when yoi are not, unless you pull your guage and observe it
fluctuating with each breath - too much to do in a panic.

  You will also note , Steve and others, that most "out of gas "
emergencies are not out of gas, but THINKING that you are out of gas,
and the cluster that follows in a poorly designed and poorly thought out
system, or a sloppy system , is what gets people killed. It only takes a
moment.

  I like to do things in the most well thought out and complete fashion.
This hose business is not an argument or a preference, it is a
necessity. Some people can see the whole picture, and have that kind of
mind, others can not. Let me suggest that when seeking advice, you go
tho those of us who have the ability to see the whole picture, and the
experience to back it up. Unfortunately, there are very few of us who
are also dive instructors, and that is too bad. On the other hand, maybe
some of those dive instructors out there can start paying attention and
get going with the DIR logic. It is the basics and the little things
that keep you alive, and as the supporting evidence to this line of
reasoning, just look at how hard it is to figure out how somebody gets
killed each time there is an accident - none of you can agree on what
happened, whereas I say it is the little things combined that are not
being taught and observed out there - the very basic simple litle
things, like this hose thing - it is obvious where the hoses need to go
- go back and read my last post on this and read Sallot's. 

  A good system like DIR covers all the bases. Gerrard's leaves gap
after gap and causes more problems than the nonexistent problem it is
trying to solve. This is why I go three times further at 300 feet than
he goes at 10 feet - go figure. Gerrard claims to teach "Hogarthian" (
he breathes the long hose, and that is where it ends with him). We are
not "hogarthian", we Do It Right - "DIR", and DIR is a whole lot more
than long hoses, a whole lot more, and it takes a whole lot more in tech
diving, and it takes a whole lot more in open water diving. My methods
work form OW 1 to 18 Grand with no changes, just more tanks and
scooters. 

  Everyone is constantly trying to "make their mark" by coming up with
some disjointed "solution" or "alternative " to DIR. Let them make their
mark with results, and then come back and tell us why with some
comprehensive logic - it ain't gonna happen. There is nothing new under
the sun, including DIR, and the basics are still the key.

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