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Subject: Re: 7l doubles or 15 l single
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 21:04:52 -0000
From: Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*>
To: "bdi" <bdi@wh*.ne*>, "Teppo J Kurki" <tjk@cc*.hu*.fi*>
cc: "Tech Diver" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Billy-

There are situations where you do no-stop penetration diving (people do 
it around here all the time on shallow wrecks) and in those situations I 
will maintain that doubles are the way to go. I agree that double 72's 
are unsuitable for deep deco dives but IMHO are fine for "shallow" deco 
dives.

   Jim

On 9/8/98 7:36 AM bdi wrote:

>At 03:09 PM 7/09/1998 +0300, Teppo J Kurki wrote:
>>Having gone from 10 l/300 bar tank to 2x7/200 and now own also 
>>2x10/200 here's my thoughts:
>>15 l
>>+ cheaper (probably)
>>+ a little  more gas
>>- valves hard to reach (at the back of your neck)
>>- awkward because of large diameter (at least in my experience)
>>- need more weight
>>2x7 l
>>+ fit closer to your body => better balance
>>+ reaching valves a lot easier, since they stick out
>>+++ when you get larger doubles you can use _exactly_ the same setup and
>>you will have already mastered the right reflexes
>>- heavier on the surface
>>- more expensive
>
>
>TJK, the problem I have with the two configurations
>mentioned, the 15 litre single and the 7 litre doubles
>is in the ocean the 15 litre is too big. Unless the
>user is an unfit, incompetent hoover with enormous
>air consumption who shouldn't be diving, they won't need 
>all that gas on any reasonable singles dive- no overhead,
>no deco ceiling, within bail-out reach of the surface. 
>A 10 litre is plenty big enough and doesn't give you the 
>management problems with the huge tank.
>
>I use a 65cu ft alloy on those kinds of dives and 
>that holds enough gas for me to earn a deco obligation.
>
>Also a 15 litre single is useless for caves.
>
>The two 7 litres are too small to do any reasonable
>decompression or overhead dive, (rule-of-thirds gives you 
>only a bit over 900 litres of gas to turn-around).
>At a useful planning consumption of 15lpm that's 12 minutes
>at 40 metres. For all the convolution of doubles, and
>two sets of regs, you might as well twin a couple of 
>10s or 12s and either get a reasonable dive in or leave
>yourself a better margin.
>
>In the one post, this guy came up with the two worst 
>cylinder configurations imaginable.
>
>
>rgrds      billyw
>
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