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Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 14:43:30 -0400
To: techdiver@aquanaut.com
From: Skip MacElhannon <skipmac@cs*.co*>
Subject: Re: The noise level and misdirection
Cc: Wrolf Courtney <wrolf@co*.ne*>
I for one do not care if you are any type of engineer or not.  I am sure
that every member of this forum believes in free speech and supports your
right to say (almost) anything you like.

However, I am tired of your endless pontificating on subjects about which
you are poorly informed.  In fact, many of your posts lead me to believe
that your primary interest is to engage in endless, pointless debate, no
matter what the subject.  Whether or not the debate has any relevance seems
secondary to the argument itself.

Much of your most recent post seems to be almost incoherent ramblings and
makes me wonder if you missed your medication today.  What on earth do you
mean by  "the men and women, of America, Britain, and Australia, who died
beneath the waves" and what does this have to do with the current subject
or even anything at all?

If you are truly interested in Hogarthian rigging the subject is covered in
detail on the WKPP web site.  Why should anyone rewrite what has been said
most eloquently by JJ, George and others?

Since you have now posted a deadline for answering your unanswerable,
endless, questions, does that mean that you will cease and desist when the
deadline passes and your demands go unanswered?

At 11:12 AM 8/25/98 -0400, you wrote:
>Your answers to your questions, and more, await your bothering to write up an
>interesting and topical report on the origin of the various practices
making up
>the Hogarthian rigging style.
>
>I am giving you until 2400hrs, Wed Aug 26th, to either put up, or shut up, or
>start negotiating - e.g. if you are incapable of addressing this topic,
and need
>an alternative sentence.
>
>But you ripped me once.  Don't expect sympathy if you do not at least come up
>with, say, "Dive Facilities where IWR is practiced, with full surface
supplied
>gasses and support, in Australia."
>
>BTW, I believe that debate continues on whether Computer Science is a
branch of
>Mathematics, Engineering, or what.  Examples, I am a software engineer (a
>subdiscipline of CS), and WWWebster gives software engineering as an
example of
>the use of the term engineering.  Yet as John Rose points out, every other
>undergraduate engineering program is accredited by ABET, only CS has its own
>(which was a little after my time).
>
>My wife laughs every time I describe myself as an engineer, and talks about
>putting light bulbs in.  Like I say, opinions vary.
>
>But here's what I want to know.  You can either reply or not, such
>is your choice.
>
>Billy, you have not written any of the major texts in the fields, nor
>performed any direct research.  You are not the director of a major,
>nor even a minor, training agency.  You have substantially less than
>twenty years with the special forces of your country, or underwater
>demolitions, or other diving operations.  (All of this is hypothetical,
>of course.)
>
>My question is not "what gives you the right...".  I already know the
>answer to that.
>
>But rather, why do you not believe in your own right to free speech?
>
>And why do you not believe in all the men and women, of America,
>Britain, and Australia, who died beneath the waves, fighting for your right?
>
>Confused?  See http://home.vicnet.net.au/~victorp/vcontent.htm#Part2.
>
>===============================================
>bdi wrote:
>
>> At 01:37 PM 23/08/1998 EDT, JSGomes117@ao*.co*
>> wrote about Wrolf:
>>
>> >Actually his constant questioning in regards to the
>> >inadequate posts of others has brought out a great
>> >deal of previously unheard information. I find it
>> >interesting that you and others want to silence him.
>>
>> >He has made no claims!
>>
>> He claims he is an engineer.
>>
>> He claims the Director of the WKPP is an anti-semite.
>>
>> >He asks direct questions!
>>
>> He refuses to answer direct questions. Like: Have
>> you ever done a trimix dive, Wrolf? Have you ever done
>> a dive requiring multiple decompression gasses Wrolf?
>> What background in trimix diving do you have, Wrolf,
>> that qualifies you to make assumptions about trimix
>> diving incidents?
>>
>> >He states when he has made assumptions!
>>
>> He made these false assumptions without once acknowledging
>> he didn't understand anything of what he was speculating on...
>>
>> >>She was presumably very negative on the hang (a bad thing),
>> >>using a lot of lift from the BC to acheive neutral buoyancy.
>> >>With her wet suit, she would clearly have been more negative
>> >>on the bottom during her dive.  Presumably she managed to
>> >>achieve at least near neutral buoyancy, as she was able to
>> >>leave the bottom with no reported problem.
>> >>Now, in ascending from thirty to twenty feet, she would have
>> >>needed to dump some air.
>> >>But at twenty feet, she suddenly lost her neutral buoyancy,
>> >>going negative,and heading down.
>>
>> >In My Honest Opinion his posts are more educational and thought
>> >provoking than nearly all of the other posts I've seen to this
>> >list.
>>
>> In Your Honest Opinion? You haven't managed to display any
>> honesty. Though, to be fair, when it comes to sliding sideways,
>> you are way out of your league compared with Wrolf.
>>
>> >J S Gomes
>> >
>> >PS  I don't own bondage wings either!!!
>>
>> That can be fixed.
>>
>> rgrds          billyw
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>
>
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>
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>
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