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Date: Thu, 06 Aug 1998 16:04:53 -0400
From: "Bruce J. Belschner" <b2@cs*.co*>
Organization: F.A. Pratt, Inc.
To: Jammer Six <jammer@oz*.ne*>
CC: cavers@ca*.co*, Tech List <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: Re: Captains Dozen Plus
I think your point is valid.  The diver should make the call.  And if there
are any
laws to be written, it should be to protect the Captain from idiots who are
over
their head.

In reality though, the "Captains Dozen" will become a necessity.

Jammer Six wrote:

> On 8/6/98 9:22, Bill Mee, wwm@sa*.ne* posted:
>
> >The boat captain is the last line of defense against self destructive
> >stupidity and dangerous risk fraught practices.  You need to be prepared
> >to turn people away if they don't meet basic criteria. You can be sure
> >that the attorney for the plaintiff (i.e. the dead diver's relatives)
> >will consider you in the same light as the getaway car driver unless you
> >have enforced basic standards.
>
> Uh, no, Bill.
>
> If a "Captain" turns anyone away, they should contact me, and I will
> launch a boat specifically to take them out, for a price.
>
> Captains making judgements about dives is exactly what's wrong with the
> sport, Bill.
>
> You are encouraging the opposite of personal responsibility, you are
> encouraging a dependence on "captains" to determine whether or not a
> given diver should make a given dive.
>
> "Captains", Dive "masters", dive shop clerks, or barbers will never have
> anything to say about where, how, and when I dive, and I pity those of
> you who allow such influence on your diving.
>
> Those of you afraid of lawsuits probably have good reason to be afraid,
> but those of you running tight ships, and sailing your course with
> experiance, wisdom, and knowledge have nothing to fear.
>
> The DIVER must remain responsible for his dive, without compromise.
>
> "C'mon, you sons of bitches, you want to live forever?"
>      -First Sergeant Dan Daley
> "Who wants to live forever?"
>      -Freddie Mercury
> "I swear, I'm going to live forever"
>      -Jon Bon Jovi



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